Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #63 Taking a Walk in Detroit

This photograph of Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1979) taking a walk in Detroit, Michigan, was snapped in the late 1930s. This is an estimate made from the women’s dress in the background.

Cousin Joe, whose mother was Roy’s sister, wrote, “Uncle Roy was a ‘Dandy’ I believe is the correct term. Had a T-Bird he used to let us drive on the backroads (fast!) and I was elated when we discovered for a moment we had the same shoe size and I got to wear his saddle loafers, the black penny loafers with a fat white band in the middle.”

As we’ve seen in many of the photos, Roy lived during an era when hats were still in fashion. And didn’t they make him look dapper?

UPDATE: A comment by a reader brought “sidewalk photography” to my attention. This type of photography had its heydays during the Great Depression. Also known as street or walking photography.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltywalking Rooney CollectionOther photographs of Samuel Royalty LILLIE:
#53 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (young Roy)
#54 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform)
#55 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979
(portrait with hat)
#56 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform with rifle)
#57 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (barber staff)
#58 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (Liberty trucks)
#59 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in New Orleans)
#61 Bartender and Owner of Brazell’s Bar in Detroit
#62 Samuel Roy LILLIE and his Retirement Plaque
#63 Taking a Walk in Detroit

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and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #62 Samuel Roy LILLIE and his Retirement Plaque

Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE, son of Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE and Florence ROYALTY, played in important roll in this collection of old photographs. It was very likely his mother Florence who saved most of the older photographs while Roy added to the collection with his own portraits. His son Lynn Vance LILLIE  was the last owner of the collection before it was saved from the trash.

Last week we saw Roy posing with a bottle of liquor at Brazell’s Bar in Detroit, Michigan, in 1939. It is not known how long he was a part-time bartender and saloon owner. At the time of the 1940 census he working for a steel mill. In 1942 on his WW II card his employer was the Great Lakes Steel Co. in Ecorse, Michigan. He remained in their employ until his retirement on June 1st, 1960.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltySteelRetirement Rooney CollectionPRESENTED TO
Great Lakes Steel Corp.
June 1st 1960 RETIRED
Samuel Royalty Lillie

Samuel Royalty LILLIE is on the left with an unidentified man. I don’t believe he is Wilfred Donald MacDonnell (1911-1999), President of Great Lakes Steel Corp. from 1957-1962. Photos found of Mr. MacDonnell show he wore glasses.

I was not able to find any information about the presentation of this plaque and why it has what looks like Texas longhorns.

Other photographs of Samuel Royalty LILLIE:
#53 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (young Roy)
#54 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform)
#55 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979
(portrait with hat)
#56 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform with rifle)
#57 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (barber staff)
#58 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (Liberty trucks)
#59 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in New Orleans)
#61 Bartender and Owner of Brazell’s Bar in Detroit (1939)
#62 Samuel Roy LILLIE and his Retirement Plaque (1960)
#63 Taking a Walk in Detroit (1930s)

#64 Brother and Sister in 1950

More about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #61 Bartender and Owner of Brazell’s Bar in Detroit

Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE, son of Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE and Florence ROYALTY, played in important roll in this collection of old photographs. It was very likely his mother Florence who saved most of the older photographs while Roy added to the collection with his own portraits. His son Lynn Vance LILLIE  was the last owner of the collection before it was saved from the trash.

In this photograph we see Roy posing with a bottle of liquor at Brazell’s Bar in Detroit, Michigan in 1939.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltyBarkeep Rooney CollectionRoy and his business partner Russell (King) HEATH bought the “saloon” around 1939 for $1,000, “liquor license & all.” King, as he was known to Roy, was a switch-man for the steam railroad in 1930, as was Roy. In 1942 at the time of the World War II registration draft Heath was working for Golda Kline as a bartender. He died in 1944.

Buying Brazell’s Bar did not make bar-tending a full time job for Roy. He had changed from working as a switch-man with the railroad in 1930 to working for the steel mill as a by 1940. In 1942 on his WW II card his employer was the Great Lakes Steel Co. in Ecorse, Michigan. He would remain with this employer until retirement as we will see next week.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltyBarkeepback Rooney CollectionS.R. Lillie & Russell (King) Heath
Detroit Mich. Brazell’s Bar
Taken 1939 Bot (sic) Saloon for $1,000.00
Liquor Lic & all.

Other photographs of Samuel Royalty LILLIE:
#53 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (young Roy)
#54 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform)
#55 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979
(portrait with hat)
#56 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in uniform with rifle)
#57 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (barber staff)
#58 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (Liberty trucks)
#59 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979 (in New Orleans)
#61 Bartender and Owner of Brazell’s Bar in Detroit

More about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #59 Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE 1895-1979

Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE, son of Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE and Florence ROYALTY, was featured in several posts during the week and weekend before Memorial Day. He was one of the lucky ones who did not loose their lives serving their country during a war or while in the military. His nephew Everett Isaac LILLIE (1915-1944) was wounded in France on 6 June 1944 and died two days later.

After World War I Samuel Royalty LILLIE married Thelma HOLT, daughter of William F. HOLT and Edith S. WYMER. They were seen together on the 1920 census in Brooklyn, Massac County, Illinois, and listed as married. No marriage record has been found for them. After the birth of their only child Lynn Vance LILLIE (1920-1993) they went their separate ways. In 1930 Samuel R. LILLIE was divorced and living in Detroit, Michigan, with his son Vance.

Roy, as he was known by the family, took a trip to New Orleans in 1930 where he had his picture taken sitting on a wall, wearing a hat and with his overcoat across his lap.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltyNOLAhatmodel1 Rooney CollectionAnother photo was taken at the same location. He appears to be dressed the same and holding his overcoat across his crossed knees while holding a different hat.

MRIN21907 LillieSamuelRoyaltyNOLAhatmodel2 Rooney CollectionMore about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #45 Three LILLIE Men and #46 Husband and Wife (Corrections)

The past two weeks I shared photographs which were taken in Detroit, Michigan, in front of apartment building #2122 on Marantette St. where Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1979) rented a unit and lived with his mother Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946), brother Raymond Egbert “Splitty” LILLIE (1904-1970), sister Ruth Joanna LILLIE (1907-1986), and son Lynn Vance LILLIE (1920-1993).

1920sRaymondIkeRoyReeseFlorence

After I posted #45 (Three LILLIE Men) and #46 (Mother and Son) my cousin Joe Rooney, son of Ike and Florence’s daughter Ruby Pernecia LILLIE (1909-1981), sent an email correcting the labeling of these pictures.

They were not part of the original collection of old photographs which were saved from the trash can. They were photographs Joe had in his possession and which were used to help identify persons in the collection. When Joe saw my posts he realized the identification for photo #46 had to be a mistake. He consulted the original and wrote in his email:

I mis-identified or mis-labeled one as Reese Lillie and Florence his Mom.  But on the back, I now see somebody had identified them as Grandpa and Grandma Lillie 1930.  Isaac and Florence.  I regret the mistake.

Due to the fact that Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE (1872-1932), husband of Florence, was not found in 1910 and 1920 census Joe had believed Ike died in 1918. We have since found his 1932 death record but he is still missing from the census. For whatever reason Ike did not live with his wife and children in Detroit but visited them as we can see by the photographs.

Corrected identification of photograph featured in post #46

ReeseFlorenceIsaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE and wife Florence ROYALTY in 1930

This photograph of Ike and his wife Florence was taken in 1930. For comparison I am including the photographs taken in 1920 at the time of the family reunion.

reunionThese were featured in Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #10 LILLIE Family 1920 Reunion. In the above, we see Ike and Florence at the very back, and in the picture below, Ike is #1.

smallgroupNow that we have #46 cleared up, who is the older man in #45 of the three LILLIE men? Taken at the same time and place as #46 the older man in the center cannot be Isaac LILLIE.

I believe he was Ike’s brother George Wyte LILLIE (1874-1943). The hat he is wearing hides part of his face but he resembles the second man from the right (#9) in the photo above as well as the younger George featured in Old Photographs from Trash Can #6.

collageCorrected identification of photograph featured in post #45

1920sRaymondIkeRoyGeorge Wyte LILLIE (1874-1943) in the middle with a cigar, and his nephews,  Raymond Egbert “Splitty” LILLIE (1904-1970) on the left and Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1979) on the right taken in 1930.

A lesson learned: Seeing your work in a different light or showing it to others may make an error pop-out. No matter how many times you go over your research or writing you will pass over mistakes. In this case my cousin Joe noticed the error after the photos were posted and brought it to my attention. He did what we should all do when we find error, bring it to the person’s attention as gently as possible. Think about how you would want to feel when being corrected.

More about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #46 Husband and Wife

Original title was: Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #46 Mother and Son

UPDATE: The photograph featured here was partly mis-identified. Corrections were posted in Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #45 Three LILLIE Men and #46 Husband and Wife (Corrections)

This photograph was most likely taken the same day (late 1920s or early 1930s) as #45 Three LILLIE Men in front of the apartment Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1979) rented at 2122 Marantette St. in Detroit, Michigan.

ReeseFlorenceReese Gentry LILLIE with his mother Florence ROYALTY

Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE and his wife Florence ROYALTY

Reese Gentry LILLIE (1892-1965) lived in Brookport, Massac County, Illinois, with his second wife Nora Belle REED (1893-1961), his children from his first marriage and his daughter from his second marriage. His first wife Dovie DEEN (1894-1918) died soon after giving birth to their youngest son Ervin Preston LILLIE (1918-1945). Reese was the oldest son of Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE (1872-1932) and Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946).

Florence, the original collector of these old photographs, lived with her son Roy in Michigan. Her children Raymond Egbert “Splitty” LILLIE (1904-1970) and Ruth Joanna LILLIE (1907-1986) also lived with them in Michigan. Her husband Ike was not in the 1930 household in Detroit and may have come up to visit his wife and children with his son Reese (no photo of Reese was found in this collection) with his brother George Wyte LILLIE. Their youngest daughter Ruby Pernecia LILLIE (1909-1981) was living in Washington DC and working as a stenographer for the US Government.

An aside, I wonder if Florence named her children with names starting with an R for her maiden name ROYALTY – Reese, Roy, Raymond, Ruth, and Ruby.

More about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #45 Three LILLIE Men

UPDATE: The photograph featured here was partly mis-identified. Corrections were posted in Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #45 Three LILLIE Men and #46 Husband and Wife (Corrections)

The first person whose photograph was featured in this series was my 1st cousin 4 times removed Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913). Today I would like to share with you a picture of his son George Wyte LILLIE and two of his grandsons.

George’s brother Isaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE (1872-1932) was the husband of Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946), the original collector of these old photographs. Ike and Florence were the parents of three sons and two daughters. They lost one child at a young age before the 1900 census.

This photograph was taken in the late 1920s or early 1930s in 1930. George, in the middle with a cigar, and his nephews,  Raymond Egbert “Splitty” LILLIE (1904-1970) on the left and Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1979) on the right.

1920sRaymondIkeRoy

The LILLIE men are standing in front of the apartment Roy rented at 2122 Marantette St. in Detroit, Michigan. George’s brother Ike’s wife Florence was listed as married and living in her son Roy’s household at this address. Also in the household were Ike’s children Raymond and Ruth and Roy’s son Lynn Vance LILLIE. In 1930 Ike was still living but not found in the census. It is believed he may have been living in Brookport, Massac County, Illinois were he died in 1932. In 1940 Roy, Raymond, and Ruth were still living at the same address with their mother Florence.

More about this collection, how it came to be in my possession,
and links to previous posts in the series can be found here.

Please contact me!
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