52 Ancestors: #4 Jacques’ Paternal Line Goes Back to Adam

Jacques “Jacobus” FABER, son of Joannis FABER of Schoos (Mersch, Grand Duché de Luxembourg) married Elisabeth WOLTER, daughter of Jacobi WOLTER and Marie Elisabeth MEYERS, on 9 June 1767 in Diekirch.[1] The marriage record shows he was the son of Joannis FABER of Schoos.

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1767 Marriage Record (left page, 2nd entry).[1]
Elisabeth was born and baptized on 28 June 1746 in Diekirch. Her godparents were Mathias Blohm and Elisabetha Böhm (Bladt), both of Diekirch.[2]

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1746 Baptismal Record. [2]
Jacques, who worked as a tailor (tailleur, Schneider), died in Diekirch on 16 February 1811 at 10 o’clock in the evening.[3] When his widow declared his death, she was incorrectly listed as being 49 years old. She was actually going on 65.

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1811 Death Record [3]
Elisabeth died on 25 December 1824 at one in the afternoon at her home in Diekirch.[4] Although she was 78 years old her age at death was listed as 84. The informants were her youngest son Johann FABER and Henri LEISEN, a neighbor.

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1824 Death Record [4]
Jacques and Elisabeth had the following children.

  1. Jacques FABER, born and baptized on 24 June 1768 in Diekirch. His godparents were Jacques REDING and Marie KESSELER, both of Diekirch.[5]. Jacques married Ursula HOSCHEID, daughter of Sébastien HOSCHEID and Ursula SPIEGEL, on 22 October 1799 in Ettelbrück. [6], [7] Ursule was born on 4 December 1755 in Erpeldange (Diekirch). Her date of birth and Jacques’ were found on the marriage record. She was 44 years old at the time of their marriage, nearly 13 years older than Jacques. No children have been found for this couple. Jacques died on 26 January 1812 in Diekirch. His widowed mother, age 70 (she was 65), declared his death. He was listed as the husband of Elisabeth WOLTER – an error – this was his mother’s name.[8] She could not read and write and likely did not notice the mistake. Further information on his wife Ursula HOSCHEID has not been located. Death records in Diekirch were checked from the time of marriage until 1853. § End of line.
  2. Cathérine FABER was born and baptized on 20 February 1772 in Diekirch. Her godparents were Guillaume SCHILTZ and Cathérine HERMAN, both of Diekirch.[9] No record of marriage or death has been found for Catharina. § End of line.
  3. Mathias FABER was born and baptized on 16 April 1775 in Diekirch. His godparents were Mathieu DRESCH and Marguerite CONRADT, both of Diekirch.[10] Mathias married Anne Cathérine SEHLEN, daughter of Henri SEHLEN and Susanne PROMMENSCHENCKEL, on 7 January 1805 in Diekirch.[11],[12] She was the widow of Jean MEYER who died 15 October 1803 in Diekirch. Anne was born on 9 September 1772 in Diekirch. She died on 11 May 1823 in Diekirch. Mathias died on 7 November 1847 in Diekirch.[13] Mathias and Anne Cathérine had three known sons and the line continued.
  4. Petrus FABER was born and baptized on 6 January 1779 in Diekirch. His godparents were Pierre SCHER/SAUER of Diekirch and Marie JUTTEL, of Diekirch.[14] He died on 23 August 1781 in Diekirch at the age of two and a half years.[15] § End of line.
  5. Wilhelmus FABER was born and baptized on 1 September 1782 in Diekirch. His godparents were Guillaume JORIS, of “Schinecken”or SCHOENECKEN and Anne Marie WAGENER, of Diekirch.[16] He died on 17 October 1786 in Diekirch at the age of four.[17] § End of line.
  6. Jean “Johann” FABER was born and baptized on 4 July 1787 in Diekirch. His godparents were Joannes FOOS and Catharina WOLTER, both of Diekirch.[18] He worked as day laborer (Taglöhner) on 16 February 1811 in Diekirch at the time of his father’s death.[1] Jean married Maria Catharina “Margaretha” SCHENTEN, daughter of Michel SCHENTEN and Cathérine OVERECKEN or UBERRECKEN, on 26 January 1813 in Diekirch.[19] Margaretha was born and baptized on 21 October 1784 in Gilsdorf. Her godparents were Antonius SCHROEDER and Maria Catharina SCHLOESSER, both of Gilsdorf.[20] She died on 27 March 1855 in Diekirch.[21] He died on 10 February 1864 in Diekirch.[22] This line continues as Johann FABER and Maria Catharina SCHENTEN were my children’s 4th great-grandparents.
Who Were the Parents of Jacques “Jacobus” FABER?

Jean “Joannis” FABER and his wife Anne Marie “Anna Maria” HUNTGES are found as the parents of my children’s 5th great-grandfather Jacques FABER (1741-1811) in several online GEDCOM files. Jacques’ marriage record confirms the name of his father as Joannis FABER of Schoos.[1] But was Joannis FABER of Schoos the same man as Jean FABER who was married to Anne Marie HUNTGES?

The answer to this question was supposed to be easy. Find Jacques’ birth/baptismal record with the names of his parents. The first difficulty was where to find the church records for the village of Schoos for the time period around 1741. Schoos belongs to commune of Fischbach in the canton of Mersch in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg per FamilySeach’s List of communes of Luxembourg. The baptisms in the church records of Fischbach begin with 1742 – possibly too late for Jacques’ baptism. I took it one step up and looked at the church records of Mersch were I found baptisms as early as 1675. I searched through the years 1735-1742, found children born in Schoos, but none with the surname FABER.

I then took a different approach. Confirm the information listed in the GEDCOMs for the couple seen as Jacques’ parents. Other children seen as theirs were born in Erpeldange where I looked for records.

I found baptismal records for five of six children of this couple. Two of the children are in the GEDCOM files but not attached to parents (the owners of the databases will be contacted). The baptismal records consistently give the names of the parents as Jois (4) or Joannis (1) FABER and Anna Maria, a married couple from Erpeldange. The children were born in 1728, 1732[23], 1736[24], 1739[25], 1744[26], and 1746[27] in Erpeldange. For the child born around 1728 no baptismal record was found – records appear to be missing from 1728-1731. However, marriage records of these children were also consulted. The son born abt. 1728 is seen as the legitimate child of Jois FABER majeri of Erpeldange in 1759.[28] The daughter born in 1732 is seen as the legitimate daughter of Joannis FABER of Erpeldange in 1753.[29]

There is a gap 5 years gap in the list of children between 1739 and 1744 which Jacques could fit in. However, Jacques’ marriage record shows he was the legitimate son of Joannis FABER of Schoos.

The FABER-HUNTGES family appears to have lived in Erpeldange from 1732 to 1746 when children’s baptisms were performed, in 1753 and 1759 when a son and a daughter married, and in 1780 when Anna Maria, wife of Jois FABER, died.[30]

Which FABER Family Lived in Schoos?

Is it possible the family lived for a short time in Schoos? I again checked the GEDCOMS with Luxembourgish families, this time for any FABER children born in Schoos. I found two candidates: Elizabeth b. abt. 1736 and Paul born abt. 1737 or 1742, both in Schoos. Marriages for both of these persons were checked as marriage dates and places were given.

Paul’s 1765 marriage in Consdorf lists father as Joannis FABER of Schoos.[31] Elizabeth’s first marriage in 1772 in Obermertzig lists father Joannis FABER and mother Margaretha THOMES.[32] Her second marriage in 1779 in Feulen lists the name of her deceased husband, confirming the 1772 marriage, but does not list parents.[33]

With the names of two FABER children born in Schoos I went back to the Mersch church records and searched again from 1734-1745 for these children paying close attention to all surnames listed in the entries as I now had a possible maiden name for the mother.

On 28 January 1735 a child named Paulus was baptized, his parents were Joannis and Margaretha THOMMES of Schoos.[34] On 23 September 1736 a child named Elisabetha was baptized, her parents were Joannis and Margaritha ADAM sive (or) THOMMES of Schoos.[35] Then on 29 Aug 1739 a child named Jacobus was baptzed, his parents were Joannis ADAM sive (or) THOMMES and Margaritha, both of Schoos.[36] No other children were found. [The Latin word sive means or – the family was know by the name ADAM or THOMMES.]

My next step was to check for a marriage for Joannis and Margaritha. There are index cards with marriages found in the church records in Luxembourg for most towns (online, browse only). I checked Mersch and found:[37]

1734joannesadamandmargaritamarriageThe entry for the marriage does not contain any more information than seen on the card.[38] Margaritha was the widow of Bernardus THOMMES. I found two children born to Bernardus and Margaritha in 1730[39] and 1732[40]. They were Joannes THOMMES and Maria Catharina THOMMES, half-siblings to Jacques.

No children were found for the years between 1724 and 1729. I looked for the Thommes surname only. Another look through for parents with the first names Bernardus and Margaritha could turn up the use of a different surname or house name as seen with the ADAM-THOMMES couple. A marriage in 1724 for Bernardus THOMMES shows he married a widowed woman named Anna, widow of Richard MÜLLER.[41] Further research will have to be done to determine if Anna is the same person as Margaritha. If so, then the Muller couple’s marriage will need to be found to determine the maiden name of Margaretha THOMMES, mother of Jacques.

Paulus, Elisabetha, and Jacobus were children of Joannis ADAM and Margaritha [maiden name unknown] THOMMES. No death records were found for Joannis and Margaritha. It is not known when they died or if one of them remarried. Why the children went by the surname FABER at the time of their marriages and during the rest of their lives is unknown.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Jacques FABER aka Jacobus THOMMES
Parents:  Joannis ADAM and Margaritha THOMMES
Spouse: Elisabeth WOLTER
Parents of Spouse: Jacobi WELTER and Marie Elisabeth MEYERS
Whereabouts: Schoos and Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandfather

1. Jacques FABER aka Jacques THOMMES
2. Jean “Johann” FABER
3. Johann “Jean” FABER
4. Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER
5. Johann Peter “Jean-Pierre” MEDER
6. Marcel Mathias MEDER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

Does Jacques’ Paternal Line Go Back to Adam?

I changed the title of this post several times while working on it. It started out as: The Faber-Wolter Family of Diekirch. Then the question came up: Who Were the Parents of Jacques “Jacobus” Faber? And what I found led to more questions and: A Proof Argument of the Parentage of Jacques Faber.

It was an exhaustive search, but, was this also exhaustive research? Do the records I found prove Jacques “Jacobus” FABER’s parents were Joannis ADAM aka THOMMES aka FABER and Margaritha THOMMES?

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794  > image 31 of 122. 1767 Marriage Record (left page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-MWLK?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : accessed 26 Dec 2016).
[2] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 20 of 373. 1746 Baptismal Record (right page, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LCD8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 26 Dec 2016).
[3] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1152 of 1493. 1811 Death Record No. 7 (at age 71). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-51221-90?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 Apr 2013).
[4] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1488 of 1493. 1824 Death Record No. 36 (age 84). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-49618-42?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 Apr 2013).
[5] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 145 of 373. 1768 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry from bottom).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHQQ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 Dec 2016).
[6] Luxembourg CIvil Records, Ettelbruck > Naissances 1885-1890 Mariages 1796-1844 > image 217 of 1505. 1799 Marriage Record (right page, first part). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XL9-Y7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-FM9%3A129625001%2C130529102 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[7] Ibid., Ettelbruck > Naissances 1885-1890 Mariages 1796-1844 > image 217 of 1505. 1799 Marriage Record (left page, second part).
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XL9-Y7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-FM9%3A129625001%2C130529102 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[8] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1175 of 1493. 1812 Death Record No. 8 (age 50). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68G9-TL7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-929%3A129628901%2C129848701 : 17 July 2014).
[9] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 169 of 373. 1772 Baptismal Record (right page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LHFF?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 Dec 2016).
[10] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 191 of 373. 1775 Baptismal Record (left page, 2nd entry from bottom).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-LH89?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[11] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 97 of 139. 1805 Marriage Record (right page, bottom, part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9ZV4?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-16G%3A1500890501%2C1500965134 : accessed 28 December 2016),.
[12] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 98 of 139. 1805 Marriage Record (left page, top, part 2).
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-98N3?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-16G%3A1500890501%2C1500965134 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[13] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 382 of 1358. 1847 Death Record No. 51. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XY7-YRT?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL%3A129628901%2C129628902 : accessed 29 December 2016).
[14] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789  > image 215 of 373. 1779 Baptismal Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-LC1M?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[15] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 65 of 140. 1781 Death Record (left page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHLM?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[16] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 260 of 373. 1782 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LZWM?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : 9 January 2015).
[17] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 89 of 140. 1786 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LH6P?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : accessed 21 Jan 2017).
[18] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 325 of 373. 1787 Baptism Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32421-8957-8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[19] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 832 of 1492. 1813 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-99261-56?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[20] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 289 of 373. 1784 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32421-8480-21?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[21] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 509 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170383-71?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[22] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 694 of 1358. 1864 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-162865-71?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 4 April 2013).
[23] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 145 of 240. 1732 Baptismal Record (left page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M72Y?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[24] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 146 of 240. 1736 Baptismal Record (right page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M72W?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[25] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 147 of 240. 1739 Baptismal Record (right page, 6th entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-MQGH?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[26] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 8 of 373. 1744 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LCQ2?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 23 January 2017).
[27] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 19 of 373. 1746 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LCJ3?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 23 January 2017).
[28] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794 > image 21 of 122. 1759 Marriage Record (left page, 3rd entry).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MQTL?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : 9 January 2015).
[29] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794 > image 13 of 122. 1753 Marriage Record (left page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-MQK6?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : 9 January 2015).
[30] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 57 of 140. 1780 Death Record (left page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHR5?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : 9 January 2015). Note: the maiden name seen is Holsen not Huntges.
[31] Ibid., Consdorf > Baptêmes 1719-1782, confirmations 1738-1792, mariages 1726-1782, sépultures 1726-1781 > image 197 of 279. 1765 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-9C8Q?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-44S%3A1500922601%2C1501087728 : 9 January 2015).
[32] Ibid., Feulen > Tables des mariages 1702-1794 Mergen-Z (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 118 of 329. 1772 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9J62?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-J44%3A1500965489%2C1501257326 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[33] Ibid., Feulen > Tables des mariages 1702-1794 Mergen-Z (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 119 of 329. 1779 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9JBC?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-J44%3A1500965489%2C1501257326 : accessed 27  January 2017).
[34] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 60 of 280. 1735 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9SFJ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[35] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 66 of 280. 1736 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9SFQ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[36] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 74 of 280. 1739 Baptismal Record (right page, last entry).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9SJ6?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[37] Ibid., Mersch > Tables des mariages 1713-1797 A-Scharber (index organisée par l’époux) > image 7 of 1579. 1734 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-S3MR?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-JWP%3A1500963301%2C1501135402 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[38] Ibid., Mersch > Mariages 1717-1749 > image 27 of 58. 1734 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9S22?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-TQ9%3A1500963301%2C1501079882 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[39] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 48 of 280. 1730 Baptismal Record (left page, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9SJV?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[40] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 53 of 280. 1732 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9S26?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[41] Ibid., Mersch > Tables des mariages 1713-1797 Scharber-Z (index organisée par l’époux) > image 276 of 542. 1724 Marriage Index Car. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-SV4?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T3D%3A1500963301%2C1501142620 : accessed 27 Jan 2017).

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A Key to Open the Door in a Brick Wall

Keys 005Today I found the key to the door of Jenny W.’s brick wall in Luxembourg!

Jenny contacted me last December through my Facebook page Opening Doors in Brick Walls. She had the dates of birth of her ancestors Heinrich HEINTZ b. 11 November 1817 and Susanna FISCHBACH b. 12 November 1827 and their daughter Catherine HEINTZ b. 8 December 1847, all in Ettelbrück, Luxembourg. She wanted to know how to find them in the Luxembourg records.

I checked the Luxembourg, Civil Registration, 1779-1923 database at FamilySearch.org for these births in Ettelbrück. The Luxembourg records have always been very well kept. Although the database is not indexed it is easy to browse. Similar to working with microfilm. None of the three births were found. This means that they had to have been born somewhere else.

Luxembourg is 998 sq. mi., a bit smaller than Rhode Island, the smallest U.S. state. You can drive from east to west in less than an hour. But without a location you cannot even begin to search for a record.

Unfortunately Jenny said someone had written a book on the FISCHBACH name and gave Ettelbrück as the town they were from. Jenny took it as the truth and kept running into her brick wall. There was nothing I could do to help her.

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Last night Jenny tried again with a post to the Genealogy Tip of the Day–the Group Page searching for help. I didn’t recognize the names right away. This morning I checked my archived messages and found the thread concerning her line.

Without the correct place of birth for these ancestors I could not help her find the records that she needed to go backwards. She was still stuck on Ettelbrück. I told her that she might have to start working through all the towns around Ettelbrück.

On the odd chance that it might work, I searched for the surname FISCHBACH in the Luxembourg telephone book.

editusThe town of Lintgen came up as the top location for the name. There aren’t that many people named Fischbach living in Lintgen. The reason it was on top was because there is also a street named “route de Fischbach” in Lintgen. There is also a town in Luxembourg named Fischbach.

Sometimes you need a little luck. [Some genealogists believe that their ancestors want to be found!]

I gave it a try and searched for Catherine HEINTZ born in 1847 in Lintgen. BINGO!

luxrecordAccording to the birth record the parents lived in Lintgen. This is what Jenny needs to do to find the records for her ancestors:

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Step 1: Check the Tables décennales. These are 10 years lists of births, marriages, and deaths. Only the names and dates are given. Search the 1842-1852 list of marriages for the HEINTZ-FISCHBACH marriage. The wife/mother was only 21 when she gave birth therefore the marriage would be in this time period.

Step 2: If the couple married in Lintgen (in this case they did) make a note of the date of marriage and search for the record in the database for the marriages of the appropriate time period. In this case Marriages 1833-1890.

Step 3: The marriage record will have information that will allow Jenny to find the birth records of the bride and groom. The parents names will be on the marriage record and if they were deceased their date and place of death will have been recorded. If they were living at the time their residence will be listed.

The key to opening the door in this brick wall was checking on the location of the surname in the country. I used the telephone book and got lucky. Another tool which maps surnames in Luxembourg and surrounding areas is brought to you by the University of Luxembourg and links to Rob Deltgen’s database.

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