Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #9 Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946)

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

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#9 Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946)

With tomorrow being Mother’s Day these photos of Joe Rooney’s grandmother Florence ROYALTY are a natural choice for today’s post. The wife of Isaac Spencer LILLIE, Florence was the original owner of the collection of old photographs being featured in this series.

Florence was not quite 3 years old when her mother died and 6 years old when her father remarried. She was quite close to her ROYALTY family as well as her stepmother’s PADDOCK family as will be seen by the photographs to be featured in later posts in this series.

florence This tintype of young Florence was taken when she was about 5 or 6 years old (ca. 1874). Does she look angry or upset about something or was the look caused by her having to be still for her portrait?

floroyandikeThis late 1890s or early 1900s strip was included in the previous post. It shows what a beautiful woman Florence was in her thirties. Florence, alone, with her second son Roy, and with her husband Isaac.

florenceolderEven as she grew older she was elegant and lovely. They didn’t photoshop pictures in the 1920s, did they?

floandgirlsFlorence with her daughters Ruth (left, b. 1907) and Ruby (right, b. 1909) in the mid- to late ’20s. The Victorian fashion era was over. Mid-calf hemlines, as Florence is wearing, came in fashion in the late 1910s and stayed until about 1922. It was only in the early second half of the 1920s that the shorter hemlines came in fashion. Waistlines were dropping from the bustline in Victorian times to the natural waistline to the hips as seen here.

Sticking with the Mother’s Day theme, both of Florence’s daughters were named after their grandmothers: Ruth Joanna for her maternal grandmother Joanna PALMER (1833-1871) and Ruby Pernecia for her paternal grandmother Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS (1852-1899).

The back of the next photograph identifies the persons and the year it was taken:

floandikebackThis photograph, taken in 1930 of Florence with her husband Isaac, who died in 1932, was likely the last of them together. They are standing in the doorway of their home at 2120 Marantette in Detroit, Michigan. The address was also seen on the 1930 and 1940 census for the household Florence was living in.

floandikeHappy Mother’s Day Flo!

Joe Rooney kindly gave me permission to use these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #8 Isaac Spencer LILLIE (1872-1932)

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

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#8 Isaac Spencer LILLIE (1872-1932)

Albert Spencer LILLIE and Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS married 29 April 1872 in Pope County, Illinois. Their first child Isaac Spencer LILLIE was born 26 November 1872 in Kentucky or Illinois. By 1872-1874 the little family had put down roots in Pope County, Illinois, where they made their home and welcomed ten more children into the family, a daughter and nine more sons.

The oldest son, Isaac Spencer LILLIE (1872-1932) married Florence ROYALTY (1868-1946) in Pope County, Illinois, on 28 October 1891. They were the parents of five  children who lived long lives. Florence gave birth to six children, one died before 1900 as reflected in her 1900 and 1910 census information.

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envelope These snapshots were in an envelope with this label ~ old Penny Pictures of Roy, Ruth, Reese, Mom & Dad. There may be another term to better describe the photographs but I haven’t found it. They were most likely taken in the very late 1890s or very early 1900s.

ikeflorandreeseIsaac Spencer “Ike” LILLIE with his wife Florence ROYALTY and with his oldest son Reese Gentry LILLIE (1892-1965).

floroyandikeFlorence (alone), with their son Samuel Royalty “Roy” LILLIE (1895-1972), and with her husband Ike.

IkeandroyIke (alone) and with his son Roy.

ikeandroywithframeThe photo of Isaac and Roy must have been a favorite as it was framed.

Their third son Raymond Egbert “Splitty” LILLIE (1904-1970) was born after this series of photos was taken.

Isaac and Florence also had two daughters, Ruth Joanna LILLIE (1907-1986) and Ruby Pernecia LILLIE (1909-1981). In the envelope with the penny photos, but taken about a half a dozen years later, was this cute photograph of Ruth which was also framed liked the one of Roy with his father Isaac.

ruthwithframeAs with the third son Raymond there was no photo (in this collection) of the youngest daughter Ruby during this time period. As the girls grew older more photos were taken of the inseparable sisters and will be featured at a later date as they were not part of the collection that was saved from the trash can.

Joe Rooney kindly gave me permission to use these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #6 George Wyte LILLIE (1874-1943)

Albert Spencer LILLIE and Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS most likely married about 1871 and had their first child in 1872 in Kentucky before moving about 1872-1874 to Pope County, Illinois, where they made their home and welcomed ten more children into the family, one girl and the rest boys. In the collection of old photographs scanned by Joe Rooney there were photos of two of the sons, several daughters-in-law, and even more of grandchildren.

George Wyte LILLIE was Albert and Pernecia’s second born, the first child born in Illinois.

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The year 1895 written on the back of the photo (left) of G. W. LILLIE dates this photo at around the time George, age 21, married(1) Mary Belle STAFFORD (1876 – bef. 1917). They were the parents of three children. Their son Chester Beryl LILLIE (right) was born 11 September 1900 and died 1 March 1921. The photo of Chester with the fish may have been taken in the late 1910s. Can you also see the resemblance of father and son in these photos taken at about the same age?

George W. LILLIE was also married(2) Marie GREEN (1875-1929) in 1917. Almost immediately following her death he married(3) Jeanette (BALL) HILBISH (b. 1885 in England d. after 1943) about 1929 as they are seen together on the 1930 census as married. He did not have children with these wives.

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This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blog post in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

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Joe Rooney kindly gave me permission to use these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #5 Thomas Nathaniel “Tom” LILLIE (1881-1944)

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

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#5 Thomas Nathaniel “Tom” LILLIE (1881-1944)

Albert Spencer LILLIE and Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS most likely married about 1871 and had their first child in 1872 in Kentucky before moving about 1872-1874 to Pope County, Illinois, where they made their home and welcomed ten more children into the family, one girl and the rest boys. In the collection of old photographs scanned by Joe Rooney there were photos of two of the sons, several daughters-in-law, and even more of grandchildren.

Thomas Nathaniel LILLIE, also known as Tom, was their fifth child and fourth son. Following the 1900 census he married Fannie DAVIDSON (1880-1903). She was a year older than Tom. They most likely lived in Pope County, Illinois. There were no known children. Update: Joe Rooney contacted me a few hours after this was posted with information on children of this couple. Per his notes Tom’s sister-in-law Florence LILLIE was the attendant at the birth of twins, Fannie’s 2nd and 3rd child, Hal and Guy, on 29 January 1903.

glass1This photo of Tom and Fannie had to have been taken between 1900 and 1903 as Fannie died in 1903. It is my belief that it was taken on their wedding day. I found an article Weddings Through the Ages: From 1900s to Today that includes photos of bridal couples by decades. Even though Tom and Fannie were photographed from waist up their clothing is almost identical to the photos in the article for the 1900s. Fannie’s dress bodice with frills up to the shoulders giving the impression of accented shoulder flaps above puffy sleeves and Tom’s stand up wing tip collar, striped cravat, and wide lapels suit jacket appear to be formal attire suggesting a wedding picture.

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After Fannie’s death, Tom married Ethel SWEENEY (1885-1934) with whom he had two children, Bessie LILLIE born about 1905 and Raymond Linvel LILLIE (above) born on 18 March 1907 as seen on the back of this photograph. They lived in Vanderburgh County, Indiana, in 1910. Ethel and Tom divorced following the 1910 census and Ethel remarried in January 1911.

glass2In September 1918 when the World War I Draft Registration cards were filled out Tom was living in Springfield County, Ohio, and was married to his third wife (above) Florence Sibbie KAUFMAN (1880-1947).

glass4Tom enjoyed a good cigar.

glass3Tom and Florence in later years.

Tom and Florence didn’t have children. They lived in Clark County, Ohio, in 1920 and 1930 and moved before 1940 to Rutherford County, Tennesse where they both died in 1944 and 1947.

Joe Rooney kindly gave me permission to use these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #4 Mary, Daniel, and Lillie SMILEY

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

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The collection of photographs scanned by Joe Rooney does not include a photograph of Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS (1852-1899). Pernecia was the daughter of Green B. GLASS (1820-1897) and his wife Rebecca NICHOLS (1824-1875). There are several photographs labelled with the surname GLASS. The following have been featured:

#2 Green B. GLASS (1820-1897) father of
#3 Green Berry Lyon GLASS (1864-1935) brother, brother-in-law and uncle of

#4 Mary Jane GLASS (1854-1930), Daniel Young SMILEY (1849-1935), and Pernecia Lillie SMILEY (1887-1931)

Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS had several sisters and one brother who died young. Mary Jane GLASS (1854-1930) was her only sibling to marry and have children. Mary Jane married Daniel Young SMILEY (1849-1935) about 1871.

glass5Mary and Dan had 8 children, 6 of whom were living in 1900 and 1910. They named their second daughter Pernecia Lillie SMILEY (1887-1931) after her aunt Pernecia LILLIE, wife of Albert. Of Mary and Dan’s children only this daughter, who went by Lillie, had a photo in this collection.

glass7Joe Rooney has kindly given me permission to feature these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #3 Green Berry Lyon GLASS (1864-1933)

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

Please contact me!
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The collection of photographs scanned by Joe Rooney does not include a photograph of Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS (1852-1899). Pernecia was the daughter of Green B. GLASS (1820-1897) and his wife Rebecca NICHOLS (1824-1875). There are several photographs labelled with the surname GLASS.

#2 Green B. GLASS (1820-1897) was the father of

Green Berry Lyon GLASS (1864-1933)

Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS had several sisters and one brother who died young. Her brother Green Berry Lyon GLASS was married twice but did not have children. Find A Grave

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Joe Rooney has kindly given me permission to feature these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

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Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can ~ #2 Green B. GLASS (1820-1897)

This is a spin-off of my 52 Ancestors: #14 Albert Spencer LILLIE (1848-1913) ~ Old Photographs Saved From Trash Can blogpost in which I featured a few photos from a collection of old photographs my 4C1R Joe Rooney shared with me. I asked Joe about using the photos and he kindly wrote, Please use them at your will.  I feel it is keeping it in the family and don’t need credit.  If anything, I appreciate your evaluations, identifications, and detective work.  I’m hopeful you and yours enjoy them.  On a blog, in a book, above a cloud.”

Please contact me!
Are you related to a person mentioned in this post? Send an email to
openingdoorsinbrickwalls @ pt.lu or message me on my Facebook page
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The collection of photographs scanned by Joe Rooney does not include a photograph of Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia Elizabeth GLASS (1852-1899). Pernecia was the daughter of Green B. GLASS (1820-1897) and his wife Rebecca NICHOLS (1824-1875). There are several photographs labeled with the surname GLASS. I will begin with Albert Spencer LILLIE’s father-in-law:

Green B. GLASS (1820-1897)

There were two photographs identified as Greene B. GLASS, born 20 February 1820 and died 11 February 1897. The oldest being this tintype:

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On the back “Lyon Glass” and “Father Greenberry Glass” was written in two different handwritings.

The second photograph of Green B. GLASS also has information from two different persons and confirms that this is the man of that name who died in 1897. Find A Grave

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Uncle Lyon mentioned on the back of this photo was the brother of Albert Spencer LILLIE’s wife Pernecia. His full name was Green Berry Lyon GLASS (1864-1933) and he will be featured in the next installment.

Joe Rooney kindly gave me permission to use these photographs on my blog.

Joe ROONEY wrote on 15 February 2015: This collection of photographs was scanned at 300 dpi color by me. The original photos were sent by Sandra Lillie about ten years ago after she found them cleaning out a relative’s garage in Southern Illinois, finding no other takers (suckers). She believes they were a collection by L Vance Lillie. Many of the pictures seemed to be removed from frames or were in albums evidenced by fading characteristics and may have been from other’s collections. I scanned the reverse if there was laboratory advertising or writing. Some of the authors’ identification may be figured out of the handwriting matches. I did not scan the reverse of photos where there was only a three digit number that I believe to be sequence numbers on a roll of film. I didn’t spot any obvious helpful commonalities.

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

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