Hubert CORNELY and Margaretha EVEN of Wickrange, Luxembourg

When I wrote about my 4th great-grandparents Jean Baptiste MAJERUS and Catharina CORNELY of Strassen on 14 January 2018 I had information about Catharina’s parents Hubert CORNELY and Margaretha EVEN of Wickrange but I had not documented all of their children or looked into their parents.

Hubert CORNELY died on 29 August 1816 in Wickrange. Of his nine children, only his oldest son Jean and his two youngest daughters Catharina and Catherine have been researched. It is not known, at this time, if the six children born between 1782 and 1793 survived, married, or had lines which continue.

Re-reading the post, I realize there is still work to be done on the children of Jean Baptiste MAJERUS and Catharina CORNELY. I need to research the spouses and children of their children, i.e. descendancy research.  Source citations were omitted in the post and I will be adding them ASAP.

This is the beginning of a new series of posts on our children’s 6th great-grandparents. For those who were also my ancestors, I will be referring to them as my 5th great-grandparents. 

Hubert CORNELY (ca. 1753-1816)

Hubert CORNELY, my 5th great-grandfather, was born between 1753-1755 in Wickrange to Pierre CORNELY (1720-1793) and his wife Marie SCHINTGEN (1725-abt. 1790-1793). He was likely their first child or their first child to live to adulthood.* Wickrange belonged to the parish of Reckange-sur-Mess where baptismal records begin in 1756 only a couple of years after the estimated birth of Hubert CORNELY. His year of birth was estimated using the age at the time of death1 and his age when he witnessed the birth of a grandson.2

A marriage record for Hubert’s parents has not been found as marriages in the church records of Reckange-sur-Messe begin only in 1779. However, when Hubert married in 1779 he was named as the legitimate son of his parents. All four of his younger siblings born between 1758 and 1769 were baptized as legitimate children of Pierre CORNELY and Marie SCHINTGEN.

Sib 1: Michel CORNELY (1758-1828) was born in Wickrange and baptized on 16 May 1758 in the parish of Reckange-sur-Mess.3 He married Marguerite KIRCHOFF (1764-1830) on 23 March 1790 in Obercorn.4 They had at least seven children in Obercorn where Michel worked as a weaver (textoris). Four of these children married and lived in the commune of Differdange. Michel died in 18285 and Marguerite in 18306, both before the marriage of their youngest son in 1831.

View of the town of Weiler-la-Tour with the nuclear plant in Cattenom, France, in the background. The photo was taken by the sign of the town of Hassel.

Sib 2: Nicolas CORNELY (1760-1833) was born in Wickrange and baptized on 5 July 1760 in the parish of Reckange-sur-Mess.7 He married Catharina GROOS (1763-1843) on 11 May 1789 in Hollerich.8 They were the parents of nine children. Nicolas died 10 June 1833 in Hassel in the commune of Weiler-la-Tour.9 His wife Catharina died 15 November 1843 also in Hassel.10 Both deaths were reported by their son-in-law Peter SONTAG. A set of twins born in 1820 has been attributed to Nicolas and Catharina11 however the baptismal records12 show they were the natural children of the oldest daughter Susanna. Note: Children of an unmarried mother were referred to as natural children in church and civil records.

Sib 3: Maria CORNELY (1764-1826) was born in Wickrange and baptized on 16 December 1764 in the parish of Reckange-sur-Mess.13 She married Peter LORENTZ (1753-1802) on 4 April 1796 at St. Michael in Luxembourg City.14 Peter died 24 December 1802 in Huncherange15 leaving Maria with only one child. Maria died in Bettembourg on 24 January 1826.16

Sib 4: Catharina CORNELY (1769-1839) was born in Wickrange and baptized 2 January 1769 in the parish of Reckange-sur-Mess.17 She married Mathias KLEIN (1772-1838) on 17 October 1802 in Bettembourg.18 They were the parents of three known children, two of whom married and had children. Mathias died 31 August 183819 in Dudelange followed by Catharina on 13 October 183920 in the same place.

*All of his siblings left the area to marry and raise their families while Hubert, the oldest, remained in Wickrange as was the custom of the times, i.e. inheritance by the firstborn child. This custom would continue to be followed by Hubert’s children as will be seen in the section below for Hubert and Margaretha’s children.

Margaretha EVEN (1756-1839)

Margaretha EVEN, my 5th great-grandmother, was born as the middle child of Léonard EVEN (1711-1779) and Marie ÖHRY (1723-aft. 1779). Marie’s maiden name had many spellings in the records found including Ery, Ehry, Ihry, Öhry, and Yry. Anna is the child who has not been located in later records.Léonard married Marie on 9 October 1741 in Obercorn, Luxembourg.21 They were the parents of:

Sib 1: Andreas EVEN (1742-1804) was born on 17 September 1742 in Obercorn.22 He married Margaretha SCHEUER (1751-1823) before December 1774. Marriage records for the years 1771-1779 are missing in the Obercorn church registers. A son was born 31 December 1774.23 Andreas was the oldest child of Léonard and Marie and likely remained in the family home as was the practice of the time. Four of his children married. He died on 24 March 1804 in Obercorn.24 His widow Margaretha lived until 31 January 1823.25

Sib 2: Susanna EVEN (1746-1801) was born about 1746 in Obercorn. She married Peter WANDERSCHEID (1735-1796) on 17 January 1768 in Obercorn.26 A baptismal record was not found for Susanna and the marriage record confirms she was the legitimate daughter of Léonard EVEN and Marie IRY (or ÖHRY). Susanna and Pierre were the parents of seven children, six of whom are known to have married. Peter died on 28 August 1796 and was buried in Obercorn.27 Susanna died on 15 January 1801 in Differdange.28

Sib 3: Henricus EVEN (1749-?) was born on 17 April 1749 in Obercorn.29 Records of marriage and death have not been found.

Kackerterhof near Oetrange

Sib 4: Catherine EVEN (1751-1833) was born 23 May 1751 in Obercorn.30 She married Joannes ERPELDING (1748-183) in Oetrange on 4 March 1774.31 Catherine died on 13 December 1833 on Kackerterhof near Oetrange.32 Her husband predeceased her. It is not known at this time if they had children. The ERPELDING family of Kackerterhof is one of my husband’s lines.

The fifth child of Léonard and Mary was my 5th great-grandmother Margaretha EVEN, their middle child born 14 August 1756 in Obercorn.33

Sib 5: Anna Maria EVEN (1761-?) was born on 6 December 1761 in Obercorn.34 A record of marriage nor a death record were found.

Sib 6: Catharina EVEN (1764-?) was born on 24 May 1764 in Obercorn.35 She was the twin of Barbara. No record of death has been found for this child.

Sib 7: Barbara EVEN (1764-1766) was born on 24 May 1764 in Obercorn.36 She was the twin of Catharina. Barbara died on 10 June 1766 at the age of 2 years.37

Sib 8: Catharina EVEN (1766-1786) was born on Christmas day in 1766 in Obercorn.38 She died at the age of 19 years on 4 May 1786 in Obercorn.39

As can be seen above, only three of Margaretha’s siblings married. She was the last to marry on 23 March 1779. Her father Léonard EVEN died less than three weeks later on 14 April 1779.40 His wife Marie ÖHRY survived him and it is not known when she may have passed away.

Hubert & Margaretha marry in Reckange-sur-Mess

View of the church with surrounding buildings in Reckange-sur-Messe.

As no opposition was made when the marriage bans were proclaimed in the parishes of Obercorn and Reckange, a marriage took place between Hubert CORNELY of Wickrange and Margaretha EVEN of Obercorn on 23 March 1779 in Reckange-sur-Messe.41 Léonard, the father of the bride, was not present. He may not have been well enough to attend as he would die less than three weeks later. The mother of the bride as well as her oldest brother Andreas and her sister Anna Maria were present at the marriage and gave their consent. Hubert’s father Pierre and his mother Marie were also present and consented to the marriage.

1779 Religious Marriage Record of Hubert Cornely and Margaretha Even

The marriage record held a key which would open the door to the SCHINTGEN brick wall. This will be discussed in a separate post.

Hubert and Margaretha had nine children. Three died at a young age. Five married and continued the line. One child remains a mystery as only a record of birth was found.

Their first child, a son, was born on 17 June 1780 and was named Jean after his godfather, his uncle Joannes ERPELDING of Kackerterhof. His godmother was his grandmother Marie SCHINTGEN.42

Two years later Margaretha was born on 22 October 1782 and at her baptism, her uncle Michel CORNELY was her godfather. Her godmother was Margaretha NEISES whose relationship to the family is unknown.43

Less than two years later Anna CORNELY was born on 29 May 1784. Her godfather was Nicolas IHRY, a young man who was likely related through her maternal grandmother who was an ÖHRY.44

The two-year period between births continued and a daughter Barbara was born on 25 November 1786. Her name came from her godmother Barbara RODIUS; her godfather was her uncle Nicolas CORNELY.45

Peter was born on 10 March 178946 and survived less than a week dying on 23 March.47

A year later, Maria Francisca, the sixth child, was born on 24 March 1790. Her godparents were Maria Francisca THEISEN and Nicolaus ODIL, a young single man.48

The children’s paternal grandmother Marie SCHINTGEN died between 23 March 1790 and 27 March 1793. As no death record has been found, it is not known if she was still living when her granddaughter Maria Francisca passed away on 1 June 1792 at the age of two years.49 Note: The death of Marie SCHINTGEN has been estimated using the marriage record of her son Michel in which she was mentioned and the death record of her husband in which he was seen as a widower.

The seventh child of Hubert and Margaretha was born 15 March 1793. Maria’s godparents were Nicolas EVEN, likely the son of her maternal uncle Andreas EVEN, and her paternal aunt Maria CORNELY.50

The children’s paternal grandfather, a widower, Pierre CORNELY died on 27 March 1793.51 Less than a week later his granddaughter Maria died on 2 April 1793 at the age of two and a half weeks.52

My 4th great-grandmother Catharina CORNELY was born on 24 April 1794.53 She was the 8th child but at the time of her birth, only three children of Hubert and Margaretha were known to still be living (assuming Anna died young). Catharina’s godparents were Christophorus GEHLEN and her paternal aunt Catharina CORNELY.

The youngest and ninth child was born on 20 October 1797 and also given the name Catharina. She was the first and only child of Hubert and Margaretha to have a civil birth record which was witnesses by Petrus LORENTZ and Catharina GOEFLINGER.54

The five CORNELY children continued to live in Wickrange where their father was a linen weaver. But soon they would be leaving the family home and marrying in other parts.

The Children of Hubert and Margaretha Marry

Their oldest daughter Margaretha married Peter MONNER (1779-1866) on 15 June 1805 in Sandweiler.55 They lived in Pulvermühle, a neighborhood between Luxembourg City and Sandweiler, where they raised nine children, eight of whom married. A daughter Catharine born in 1807 did not die on 17 May 1808 as seen in trees on Ancestry. The death record is for a woman named Catharine MAMER age 43 years. This daughter has not been found marrying in Luxembourg and a death record has yet to be located. The second son of this family went to America in 1852 and descendants of this line have shown up as DNA matches to the test I manage.

Jean CORNELY, the oldest son of Hubert and Margaretha, married Catharina HELLESCH (1777-1862) on 3 February 1807 in Reckange.56 They made their home in Wickrange, likely with his parents as he was the oldest. They were the parents of five children, three of whom died at a young age. A son Jacques never married. Their youngest child, daughter Margaretha married and was the only child to give them grandchildren.

Water tower of the commune of Bertrange

Barbara married Michel THINNES (1780-1852) on 13 January 1809 in Leudelange.57 They lived in Bertrange and were the parents of eight children. Their two youngest died at an early age. Their oldest son died at the age of 21. Four of their children married and had children. A son Theodore has not been traced.

Hubert CORNELY died at 7 in the morning on 29 August 1816 in Wickrange. His death was reported by his oldest child Jean.58 At home, he left a widow, Margaretha, and two unmarried daughters, both named Catharine.

The elder Catharina CORNELY married Jean Baptiste MAJERUS (1797-1868) on 25 April 1817 in Strassen.59 They were my 4th great-grandparents and their full story can be read here: 52 Ancestors: #46 Jean Baptiste Majerus and Catharina Cornely of Strassen. They were the parents of 11 children; one died at the age of two months and one has not been traced. Nine children married and had children. One son had a daughter who married in Bruxelles in 1881, moved to Switzerland before 1886 and then to England where the line remained. Another daughter of the same son emigrated to America after 1890 and settled in Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota. Descendants of these two lines have shown up as DNA matches to the test I manage.

The younger Catherine CORNELY (I use a different spelling to keep them apart) married Jean KREMER (1796-1876) on 6 June 1824 in Bertrange.60 They were the parents of eight children of whom only two lived to adulthood. Neither married. The daughter died at the age of 53 years and the son, their first child, died at the age of 80 in 1905.

Margaretha EVEN, the widow of Hubert CORNELY, outlived him by 23 years dying on 14 September 1839 in Wickrange at the age of 83. She died at 8 in the evening at the home of her son Jean who reported the death.61 She lived to see all her children married.

Following the death of their mother Margaretha, the children continued to live their lives in Reckange, Bertrange, Pulvermühle, and Strassen.

The oldest of the siblings, Jean died on 19 January 1858 at the age of 77.62 Two years later the two oldest girls died, Barbara (73) on 24 June 186063 and Margaretha (77) on 11 August 1860.64

A little over a decade later, my ancestress, the elder Catharina CORNELY died on 10 June 1871 in Strassen at the age of 77.65 Her youngest sister, the younger Catherine died on 3 December 1874 in Bertrange, also at the age of 77 years.66

I found it amazing that four of the five children of Hubert CORNELY and Margaretha EVEN who lived to adulthood died at the age of 77.

While researching this family group I didn’t stop at the parents and children of Hubert and Margaretha. I pushed forward following the lines of descendants who show up in the match list of the DNA test I manage as well as backward for any leads to take the family tree back another generation or two. As mentioned above, I will be writing a post about the key I discovered in Hubert and Margaretha’s marriage record. Another post will correct a misidentification the American descendants of Hubert and Margaretha’s daughter Margaretha CORNELY who married Peter MONNER have in their family trees.

P.S. I haven’t included any images of the documents found other than the 1779 marriage record. If you are interested in the documentation, the links are posted in the long list of citations below. If you aren’t interested, keep scrolling down to like or comment on this post. Thank you.

© 2019, copyright Cathy Meder-Dempsey. All rights reserved.


  1. Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Reckange-lès-Mersch-sur-Mess > Naissances 1867-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1883 > image 913 of 1497. 1816 Death Record No. 5. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12156-31738-32?cc=1709358 : accessed 2 December 2015). 
  2. Ibid., Reckange-lès-Mersch > Naissances 1796-1866 > image 122 of 828. 1807 Birth Record (right, lower). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LVZ-W5F?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-VZS%3A130232001%2C130238801 : accessed 21 April 2019). 
  3. Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 5 of 135. 1758 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M61H?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
  4. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1779-1793, 1797, mariages 1790-1793, 1796-1797, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 298 of 407. 1790 Marriage Record (bottom left, top right). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9HLX?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-4W1%3A1500974001%2C1500974002 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  5. Luxembourg Civil Records, Differdange > Décès 1813-1858 > image 193 of 591. 1828 Death Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X1Y-QK?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-GP6%3A129627401%2C129627402 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  6. Ibid., Differdange > Décès 1813-1858 > image 217 of 591. 1830 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X1P-Q5?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-GP6%3A129627401%2C129627402 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  7. Luxembourg Church Records, Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 7 of 135. 1760 Baptismal Record (right page, 4th entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-M6Q4?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
  8. Ibid., Hollerich > Baptêmes, mariages, décès 1785-1796 > image 142 of 203. 1789 Marriage Record (left page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-9KHB?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-C6X%3A1500934001%2C1501009736 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
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  10. Ibid., Weiler-la-Tour > Décès 1796-1890 > image 290 of 632. 1843 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XC93-89N?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-YWP%3A130558901%2C129627102 : accessed 27 April 2019). 
  11. Dr. Prosper Kasyer and Pfarrer Hubert Job, Familienchronik der Einwohner der Gemeinde Weiler-zum-Turm: Hassel, Syren, und Weiler-Turm ca1750-1930, published 2013 by the author; pages 30-31, family #232, Cornely Nicolas and Groos Catharina, children #11 and #12. 
  12. Diözesanarchiv Luxemburg / Archives diocésaines Luxembourg (images), Matricula Online, Creative Commons License CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 (original records in the Luxembourg Diocesan Archives, Luxembourg City), Microfilm/-fiche GV.MF 526 – 627, Weiler-zum-Turm, KB-03-11, Heiraten – Sterbefälle – Taufen – 1809 – 182, page 57, image 110, right, last entry. 820 Baptismal Record for Elisabetha Cornely. (http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/weiler-zum-turm/KB-03-11/?pg=110 : accessed 28 April 2019) and page 58, image 111, left page, first entry. 1820 Baptismal Record for Catharina Cornely. (http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/weiler-zum-turm/KB-03-11/?pg=111 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  13. Luxembourg Parish Records, Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 10 of 135. 1764 Baptismal Record (left, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M6TG?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  14. Ibid., Luxembourg, Saint Michel > Mariages 1764-1796 > image 302 of 305. 1796 Marriage Record (right, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9LQJ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-3YZ%3A1500891707%2C1500962420 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  15. Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettembourg > Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1885 > image 670 of 1479. 1802 Death Record (3 nivôse an XI) (left, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6X59-BL?cc=1709358&wc=9RY3-K68%3A129623601%2C129637201 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  16. Ibid., Bettembourg > Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1885 > image 841 of 1479. 1826 Death Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XPW-3V1?cc=1709358&wc=9RY3-K68%3A129623601%2C129637201 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  17. Luxembourg Church Records, Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 13 of 135. 1769 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-M624?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : 9 January 2015),. 
  18. Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettembourg > Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1885 > image 26 of 1479. 1802 Marriage Recor (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XPW-9YY?cc=1709358&wc=9RY3-K68%3A129623601%2C129637201 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  19. Ibid., Dudelange > Naissances 1888-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1840 > image 1451 of 1477. 1838 Death Record No. 37. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWY9-MFL?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-K68%3A129625901%2C130271901 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  20. Ibid., Dudelange > Naissances 1888-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1840 > image 1462 of 1477. 1839 Death Record No. 24. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWY9-MPN?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-K68%3A129625901%2C130271901 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  21. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Mariages 1727-1770, sépultures 1727-1737, 1740-1778 > image 64 of 96. 1741 Marriage Record (right page, 8th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9Y5?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-44M%3A1500974001%2C1501083590 : accessed 19April 2019). 
  22. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 23 of 103. 1742 Baptismal Record (left page, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9ZVL?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  23. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 86 of 103. 1775 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9Z2Z?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : 9 January 2015). 
  24. Luxembourg Civil Records, Differdange > Naissances 1796-1806 > image 103 of 166. 1804 (3 germinal an XII) Death Record (right, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LVQ-8NQ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-JWG%3A129627401%2C130102702 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  25. Ibid., Differdange > Décès 1813-1858 > image 132 of 591. 1823 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X19-S53?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-GP6%3A129627401%2C129627402 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  26. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Mariages 1727-1770, sépultures 1727-1737, 1740-1778 > image 86 of 96. 1768 Marriage Record (bottom left, top right). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9K6?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-44M%3A1500974001%2C1501083590 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  27. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1704-1727, 1746, 1794-1797, 1800-1805, mariages 1795-1797, 1800-1807, sépultures 1794-1797, 1802-1807 > image 266 of 296. 1796 Death Record (left, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-99JH?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-N3T%3A1500974001%2C1500974302 : accessed 28 April 2019). 
  28. Luxembourg Civil Records, Differdange > Naissances 1881-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1812 > image 1392 of 1487. 1801 Death Record (25 nivôse an IX), right page, bottom. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PW9-RJ2?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-JWL%3A129627401%2C130296101 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  29. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 33 of 103. 1749 Baptismal Record (left page, 6th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9ZXH?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  30. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 35 of 103. 1751 Baptismal Record right page, 8th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9Z4P?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 19 April 2019). 
  31. Ibid., Oetrange > Tables des mariages 1718-1755, 1761-1763, 1767-1792 (organisée par l’épouse) > image 22 of 122. 1774 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-92KT?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-L2W%3A1500972093%2C1501259064 : accessed 30 August 2017). 
  32.   Luxembourg Civil Records, Contern > Décès 1822-1890 > image 78 of 568. 1833 Death Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRWS-8JR?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-JWL%3A129626701%2C129626702 : accessed 30 August 2017). 
  33. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 44 of 103. 1756 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9ZGG?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  34. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 54 of 103. 1761 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9ZX7?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  35. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 61 of 103. 1764 Baptismal Record of twins (left page, 2nd entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9ZZJ?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  36. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 61 of 103. 1764 Baptismal Record of twins (left page, 2nd entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9ZZJ?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  37. Ibid., Obercorn > Mariages 1727-1770, sépultures 1727-1737, 1740-1778 > image 29 of 96. 1766 Death Record (left page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9BV?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-44M%3A1500974001%2C1501083590 : accessed 1 May 2019). 
  38. Ibid., Obercorn > Baptêmes 1728-1778 > image 64 of 103. 1766 Baptismal Record (right page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9CKY?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-HZW%3A1500974001%2C1501099482 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  39.  Armand Logelin-Simon, Registres Paroissiaux Oberkorn, Tables par Familles 1637-1804, a handwritten compilation by the author of the families found in the church records of Obercorn, Luxembourg, scanned and made available as a free pdf to members of Luxracines on https://www.luxracines.lu/site/en/biblioonline, page 49 family 22 Ewen, Leonard. 
  40. Luxembourg Church Records, Obercorn > Baptêmes, sépultures 1779-1786 > image 118 of 119. 1779 Death Record (right page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9CST?cc=2037955&wc=STHX-7MQ%3A1500974001%2C1501107388 : accessed 20 April 2019). 
  41. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 11 of 205. 1779 Marriage Record (lower, left). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-M6TL?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 January 2018). 
  42.   Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 17 of 205. 1780 Baptismal Record (left, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-MXVB?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 January 2018). 
  43. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 49 of 205. 1782 Baptismal Record (right, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MXDX?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 January 2018). 
  44. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 78 of 205. 1784 Baptismal Record (left, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MXQ4?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 January 2018). 
  45. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 106 of 205. 1786 Baptismal Record (left, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-MX6M?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 January 2018). 
  46. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 141 of 205. 1789 Baptismal Record (right, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-M654?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 9 January 2018). 
  47. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 122 of 135. 1789 Death Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MX44?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 21 April 2019). 
  48. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 152 of 205. 1790 Baptismal Record (lower left, upper right). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-MX8V?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 9 January 2018). 
  49. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 122 of 135. 1792 Death Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MX44?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
  50. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 194 of 205. 1793 Baptismal Record (left, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-M6PC?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y47%3A1500994201%2C1500913302 : accessed 9 January 2018). 
  51. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 122 of 135. 1793 Death Record (left page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MX44?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
  52. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 122 of 135. 1793 Death Record (right page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MX44?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 18 April 2019). 
  53. Ibid., Reckange-sur-Mess > Baptêmes 1756-1797, confirmations 1791, mariages, sépultures 1779-1797 > image 74 of 135. 1794 Baptismal Record (right, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-MDTM?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4S%3A1500994201%2C1501112274 : accessed 7 January 2018). 
  54. Luxembourg Civil Records, Reckange-lès-Mersch > Naissances 1796-1866 > image 11+12 of 828. 1797 Birth Record part 1+2, lower right and upper left (20 October an VI).
    (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LK9-XS?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-VZS%3A130232001%2C130238801 : accessed 9 January 2018). 
  55. Ibid., Sandweiler > Naissances 1797-1864 > image 75+76 of 932. 1805 Marriage Record (26 Prairial an XIII). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61JN-R6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-C68%3A130336601%2C130448701 : accessed 17 April 2019). 
  56. Ibid., Reckange-lès-Mersch-sur-Mess > Naissances 1867-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1883 > image 278 of 1497. 1807 Marriage Record (left page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6FW9-QKX?cc=1709358&wc=9RY3-PTL%3A130234801%2C130234802 : 17 July 2014). 
  57. Ibid., Leudelange > Mariages 1802-1823 > image 61+62 of 193. 1809 Marriage Record (two pages). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYZ3-Q39?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-YW5%3A130016701%2C130087201 : accessed 16 April 2019). 
  58. Ibid., Reckange-lès-Mersch-sur-Mess > Naissances 1867-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1883 > image 913 of 1497. 1816 Death Record No. 5. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12156-31738-32?cc=1709358 : accessed 2 December 2015). 
  59.   Ibid., Strassen > Naissances, mariages 1796-1823, 1850-1890 > image 1000 of 1464. 1817 Marriage No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12588-58675-14?cc=1709358 : accessed 2 December 2015). 
  60. Ibid., Bertrange > Naissances 1796-1890 Mariages 1796-1827 > image 1446 of 1480. 1824 Marriage Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12703-107213-91?cc=1709358 : accessed 2 December 2015). 
  61. Ibid., Reckange-lès-Mersch-sur-Mess > Naissances 1867-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1883 > image 1107 of 1497. 1839 Death Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12156-33353-69?cc=1709358 : accessed 2 December 2015). 
  62. Ibid., Reckange-lès-Mersch-sur-Mess > Naissances 1867-1890 Mariages 1796-1890 Décès 1796-1883 > image 1301 of 1497. 1858 Death Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6FW9-7CC?cc=1709358&wc=9RY3-PTL%3A130234801%2C130234802 : accessed 10 January 2018). 
  63. Ibid., Bertrange > Mariages 1828-1890 Décès 1796-1890 > image 1118 of 1416. 1860 Death Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X89-BWK?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-829%3A129622901%2C129640401 : accessed 16 April 2019). 
  64. Ibid., Sandweiler > Décès 1833-1890 > image 291 of 604. 1860 Death Record No. 19. ( (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRKS-S3G?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-929%3A130336601%2C130345701 : accessed 17 April 2019). 
  65. Ibid., Strassen > Décès 1850-1890 > image 224 of 446. 1871 Death Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11741-2453-64?cc=1709358 : accessed 22 August 2011). 
  66. Ibid., Bertrange > Mariages 1828-1890 Décès 1796-1890 > image 1252 of 1416. 1874 Death Record No. 27. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X8S-3G1?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-829%3A129622901%2C129640401 : accessed 3 May 2019). 

52 Ancestors: #26 A Visit of Moestroff, Ancestral Home of the Zwanck-Welter Family

I love it when I’m speculating about a relationship, searching for records to back it up, and end up finding the one document that brings it all together!

Remember doing jigsaw puzzles as a child? Did you try to connect the pieces even when they didn’t fit? The pieces of my puzzle were all spread out and I was sure they would come together into one picture.

Castle of Moestroff hidden behind walls and overgrown hedges and trees

Clara WELTER and Franz ZWANCK are another set of my children’s 5th great-grandparents in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. Clara and Franz lived in the town my husband often visited while growing up. Being the oldest grandchild of Suzanne PEFFER and Fritz KREMER he would spend his summer vacation with his grandparents, running around the little village, and playing with the children there. Little did he know, his friends were most likely distantly related to him as many families have deep roots in the little hamlet.

The mill of Moestroff across the Sauer River from the castle and church.

Moestroff is a village which is on one of our main bike routes when riding north of Echternach and we stopped there to take a few photos this week.

The church of Moestroff (side view from back) with the priest’s entry door.

Franz ZWANCK (1750-1820)

Franciscus “Franz” ZWANCK was born about 1750 in Moestroff, commune of Bettendorf, district of Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. His estimated date of birth was calculated from the age at death seen in his death record. I believe he may have been born several years after 1750. He was the son of Pierre ZWANG (d. aft. 1789) and Anne Marie HUSCHET (d. bef. 1789) per Franz’s 1789 marriage record. He died on 3 June 1820 in Moestroff.[1]

Clara WELTER (1766-1826)

Franciscus married Maria Clara WELTER, daughter of Johann WELTER and Anna Maria FELTES, on 26 October 1789 in Bettendorf.[2] Clara, as she was known, was born on 4 July 1766 in Reisdorf[3], the fifth of seven children. She died on 25 January 1826 in Moestroff.[4]

The steeple of the church of Moestroff

Franz and Clara’s children

  1. Catherine ZWANK was born on 2 August 1790[5] and died on 29 March 1852.[6] (more below)
  2. Peter ZWANK § was born on 19 August 1793 in Moestroff and was baptized the same day in Bettendorf.[7] He died at the age of 3 years on 8 September 1796 in Moestroff.[8]
  3. Jacques “Jacob” ZWANK was born on 17 May 1795[9] and died on 15 February 1858.[10] (more below)
  4. Johann ZWANCK was born on 26 April 1797.[11] He died on 28 February 1832.[12] (more below)
  5. Margreta ZWANG § was born on 22 April 1799 in Moestroff.[13] She lived only eight days dying on 29 April 1799.[14]
  6. Maria ZWANG § was born 26 May 1800[15] and died on 26 January 1815 at the age of 14 years in Moestroff.[16]
  7. Franciscus ZWANCK § was born on 28 April 1804
    [17] and died on 18 July 1804 at the age of nearly three months.[18] Both events took place in Moestroff.

§ is the symbol I use for children who are the end of the line. The additions of Margreta and Maria were only made today. I had found the death record of Maria who died in 1815 and was searching for her birth record when I found Margreta’s birth record. So close in age, I thought they may have been the same person. I continued to search and found the birth record of Maria and the death record of Margaretha proving they were two.

The children who survived to adulthood

Catherine ZWANK

Catherine ZWANK was born and baptized on 2 August 1790 in Moestroff. Catherine married Matthias ABENS, son of Théodore ABENS and Susanne HASTERT, on 29 May 1811 in Bettendorf.[19] Matthias was born on 2 January 1785 in Ralingen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.[19] He died on 3 August 1819 in Moestroff.[20] Catherine and Matthias had two children: Christophe (1816-1880) who remained in Moestroff and Anna Maria (1819-aft. 1889) who moved to the Province of Luxembourg in Belgium.

Catherine also married Nicolas WEYLAND, son of Hubert WEYLAND and Marguerite ÖRNTZEN (I believe this name may have later been ERNZEN), on 22 January 1828 in Bettendorf.[21] Nicolas was born on 29 January 1779 in Örntzheim (Nommern).[22] He died on 25 June 1859 in Moestroff.[23] Catherine and Nicolas also had two children: Catharina (1830-1900) who went to live in Paris, France, with her husband and family and Jacques Hubert (1833-aft. 1909) who went to live in the Province of Luxembourg in Belgium with his family.

Catherine died on 29 March 1852 in Moestroff.

UPDATE: My friend Linda, a researcher in Luxembourg, confirmed: Örntzheim (Nommern) is in fact Ernzen, part of Larochette (also called Feels or in Latin Rupe, all meaning -Little-Rock). Larochette was in the parish of Nommern before the French Revolution.

Jacques ZWANK

 

The castle, with the steeple of the church in the background, in the town of Moestroff where Jacques ZWANK raised his family

Jacques “Jacob” ZWANK was born on 17 May 1795 in Moestroff and baptized the same day in Bettendorf. Jacques married Maria DAHM, daughter of Pierre “Peter” DAHM and Anne Cathérine KIMMES, on 22 October 1823 in Bettendorf.[24] Maria was born on 10 July 1797 in Moestroff and christened the same day in Bettendorf.[25] Jacob died on 15 February 1858 in Moestroff and Maria died on 28 November 1859 in Moestroff.[26] Their story was told in 52 Ancestors: #39 The ZWANK-DAHM Family of Moestroff. Jacob and Maria’s children remained in Moestroff.

Johann ZWANCK

The castle of Vianden, the town where Johann ZWANCK raised his family

Johann ZWANCK was born on 26 April 1797 in Moestroff. He died on 28 February 1832 in Vianden. Johann married Cathérine HIERTZ, daughter of Jean HIERTZ and Barbe WEYRICH, on 17 January 1826 in Vianden.[27] Cathérine was born on 2 October 1804 in Vianden[28] Her death record has not been located. Johann and Cathérine had four children: Johann (1826-aft. 1886), Jacob (1828-1898), Wilhelm (1828-1832), Agathe (1831-?).

Getting back to the jigsaw puzzle

What I do when I have a genealogy puzzle is to add assumed children with TEMPORARILY ATTACHED typed in at the top of their notes to a set of parents in my database. These parents may already have proven children whose timelines are helpful in determining if I am on the right track. I work through each “child” adding information as it is found. If they end up not being connected I can easily detach the child leaving all of the information in my database. I don’t delete the information because, even if it is not useful to me, it may help someone else with their research.

The puzzle the ZWANG family presented was partly solved in this way. As you can see in the genealogical information above, the family name was seen with several different spellings: ZWANG, ZWANK, and ZWANCK. I had to be careful that all of these spellings were variations of the same name and not another family name.

Before I found the one document that brings it all together! this was what I knew. Pierre ZWANG and Anne Marie HUSCHET may have had at least 4 children. This was speculation on my part. Records were found for a possible son Ludovicus (1748-1776), a possible daughter Irmina Catharina (b. 1750), and sons Franz (b. abt. 1750) and Nicolas (b. 1764). The baptismal records of the first two children DID NOT have the maiden name of the mother –  HUSCHET. For Franz, the subject of this post, no baptismal record was found however his marriage record gave the maiden name of his mother as HUSCHET. Nicolas’ baptismal record only had Anne Marie as his mother’s name.

One avenue I have not considered is that the ZWANG-HUSCHET couple may have had children in another town. In records found for the HOSCHEID family (which I worked through when I wrote A Priest Born in the 16th Century Leaves a Key to Open the Door in a Brick Wall) the surname HOSCHEID was also spelled HUSCHETE. I may have to re-visit the Brandenbourg records to see if there is a connection.

It must be mentioned here that early parish records for Moestroff were found in Reisdorf and later parish records were found in Bettendorf. Unfortunately, there is a period between the two where records are missing. Notably for Bettendorf before 1763.

Further speculation on my part was that Irmina Catharina went by Catharina and married Johann KELSCH on 9 March 1777 in Bettendorf. The marriage record does not list parents. Johann KELSCH was the godfather of Franz’s son Johann in 1797. As no age was listed, this Johann KELSCH could have been either the husband of Catharina ZWANG or her son. I found two researchers who list a date of death for Catharina’s husband. The date was 6 March 1798.

1798 Death Record of Pierre ZWANG found on pages 345 and 346 of the civil register of Bettendorf.[29]
While searching for the death record of Johann KELSCH (I still have not found it!) I found a death record I had not expected to find.

The early civil records for Luxembourg begin in 1796. This is the period in which the Republican Calendar was being used. The date I was searching for, 6 March 1798, would have been 16 Ventôse in the year VI. I found records dated the 3rd and the 20th of the month of Ventôse in the year VI but none in between.

One of the death records for the 3rd included the name KELSCH but it was the name of one of the informants and not the person who had died. The civil servant who was likely not very well educated in French made many spellings errors. They were errors he repeated in other entries and therefore likely how he thought they were written.

The handwriting and the spelling made it difficult to decipher the document, a death record for Pierre ZWANG, the father of Franz ZWANG. The record clearly states Franz was the son of Pierre but the relationship of Johann KELSCH who was the second informant is not given. However, his age was given as 21 which could only mean he was the son of Catharian ZWANG and Johann KELSCH.

From this record, I now know Pierre ZWANG was born about 1728 as his age was 70 years at the time of death on 21 February 1798.[29]

The family name ZWANG is a German word which means force. In the end, I did not need to use force to piece the puzzle together. The pieces fell into place although it did take hours of looking through the Luxembourg records, adding the records to my database, and citing the sources.

Do you have a similar way of solving the problems you run into in your genealogy research? I hope you’ve enjoyed this visit to Moestroff with the ZWANCK-WELTER family.

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 993 of 1494. 1820 Death Record (age at death 70). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-37494-69?cc=1709358 : accessed 26 September 2015).
[2] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances, mariages, décès 1779-1812 > image 112 of 238. 1789 Marriage Record (left page, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRLB-BM?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-DP8%3A129626601%2C130236801 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[3] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Reisdorf > Baptêmes 1725-1805, mariages 1763-1805 > image 20 of 59. 1766 Baptismal Record (left page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-H9M2-Z?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-RM8%3A1501010555%2C1501010556 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[4] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1045 of 1494. 1826 Death Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-35658-79?cc=1709358 : accessed 26 September 2015).
[5] Luxembourg Parish Records, Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 47 of 94. 1790 Baptismal Record (right page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32400-1478-56?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ:1500974653,1500923326 : accessed 24 September 2015).
[6] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1388 of 1494. “.” 1852 Death Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-37526-82?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 7 Sep 2011).
[7] Luxembourg Parish Records, Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 53 of 94. 1793 Baptismal Record (last entry on right page). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32400-2766-52?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ:1500974653,1500923326 : accessed 24 September 2015).
[8] Ibid., Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 94 of 94. 1796 Death Record (left page, 6th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MS17?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ%3A1500974653%2C1500923326 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[9] Ibid., Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 57 of 94. 1795 Baptismal Record (left, top). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32400-2824-51?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ:1500974653,1500923326 : accessed 24 September 2015).
[10] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1462 of 1494. 1858 Death Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-36487-72?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 10 Apr 2013).
[11] Luxembourg Parish Records, Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 60 of 94. 1797 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32400-2625-75?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ:1500974653,1500923326 : accessed 24 September 2015).
[12] Luxembourg Civil Records, Vianden > Mariages 1834-1890 Décès 1797-1866 > image 918 of 1406. 1832 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTQS-LJ6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-DP8%3A130504801%2C130555401 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[13] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances, mariages, décès 1779-1812 > image 198 of 238. 1799 (3 Floreal year VII) Birth Record part 1 (right, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRLT-2L?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-DP8%3A129626601%2C130236801 : accessed 29 July 2017) See also image 199 for part 2.
[14] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances, mariages, décès 1779-1812 > image 216 of 238. 1799 Death Record ( 9 Floreal year VII). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRLL-B8?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-DP8%3A129626601%2C130236801 : accessed 29 July 2017).
[15] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances, mariages, décès 1779-1812 > image 227 of 238. 1800 Birth Record No. 19 (6 Prairial year VIII). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRLB-RV?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-DP8%3A129626601%2C130236801 : accessed 29 July 2017).
[16] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 950 of 1494. 1815 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-35621-4?cc=1709358 : accessed 25 September 2015).
[17] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 1328 of 1507. 1804 Birth Record No. 46 (8 Floreal an XII). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-175-20?cc=1709358 : accessed 26 September 2015).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 1328 of 1507. 1804 Birth Record No. 46 (8 Floreal an XII). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-175-20?cc=1709358 : accessed 26 September 2015).
[19] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 1439 of 1507. 1811 Marriage Record (left page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X2MW-CV?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9%3A129626601%2C129945501 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[20] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 985 of 1494. 1819 Death Recod (left, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-DJV?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 29 July 2017).
[21] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 166 of 1494. 1828 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-6C4?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[22] Luxembourg Parish Records, Nommern > Baptêmes 1744-1787, confirmations 1750-1789, mariages 1751-1765, 1769-1787, sépultures 1752-1787 > image 68 of 170. 1779 Baptismal Record (part 1, right page, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9SWR?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-L2V%3A1500981117%2C1501018978 : accessed 29 July 2017). See also image 59 for second part.

[23] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1481 of 1494. 1859 Death Record No. 23. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-FQH?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 27 July 2017).
[24] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 82 of 1494. 1823 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38177-77?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 10 Apr 2013).
[25] Luxembourg Parish Records, Bettendorf > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1763-1797 > image 60 of 94. 1797 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32400-2625-75?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-SPJ:1500974653,1500923326 : accessed 24 September 2015).
[26] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1487 of 1494. 1859 Death Record No. 48. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39674-59?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 10 Apr 2013).
[27] Ibid., Vianden > Naissances 1793-1828 > image 113 of 484. 1804 Birth Record (10 vendémiaire an XIII). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCWW-SC?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-SPD%3A130504801%2C130707001 : accessed 29 July 2017).
[28] Ibid., Vianden > Naissances 1829-1890 Mariages 1797-1833 > image 1437 of 1493. 1826 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTCS-W58?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-929%3A130504801%2C130760501 : accessed 24 July 2017).
[29] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances, mariages, décès 1779-1812 > image 179 of 238. 1798 Death Record part 1 (3 ventôse an VI) (right, bottom).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRL1-Y1?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-DP8%3A129626601%2C130236801 : accessed 29 July 2017). See also image 180 for second part.

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52 Ancestors: #17 Mathias Friederich dite Thivels and Maria Olsem of Dillingen

Sometimes I am amazed at the discoveries I make when I sit down to write about these ancestral couples. Of course this only happens when I do a new round of research to learn more about the couple, their children, their parents and siblings, and any other possible connections.

While working through this family group, I discovered the father of the nearly 20 years old Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS had not died in 1791 as believed. The discovery of his death record started an avalanche of records which I will work through when I do the next generation. You’ll get a tiny peek below.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Mathias FRIEDERICH dite TIVELS
Parents: Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH and Catharina FEDERSPIEL
Spouse: Maria OLSEM
Parents of spouse: Martin HUNTGES aka Martin OLSEM and Margaretha MAY
Whereabouts: Dillingen, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandfather

1. Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS
2. Elisabeth FRIEDERICH
3. Anton KREMER
4. Nicolas KREMER
5. Franz “Fritz” KREMER
6. Marie Françoise “Maisy” KREMER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

My children’s 4th great-grandmother Elisabeth FRIEDERICH was the daughter of Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS and Maria OLSEM. As seen in the post I wrote about her and her husband Nicolas KREMER, 52 Ancestors: #34 KREMER-FRIEDERICH Family – Using Substitutes to Tell Their Story, she was the only child of Mathias and Maria known to have grown to adulthood and marry. This is her parents’ story.

Mathias and Maria Marry in Wallendorf

The parish church of Wallendorf built in 1748. Photo credit: Egon Meder.

After the marriage banns had been read in Wallendorf and Bissen, and there being no objection to the marriage, a minor young man named Mathias FREDERICH and a young woman who was of age named Maria OLSEM were married on 7 February 1791 in the parish of Wallendorf. At the time Wallendorf was part of Luxembourg; after 1815 it became part of Germany.

Mathias was the legitimate son of Joannis FREDERICH, a farmer who was present, and the deceased Catharina FEDERSPIEL, both of Dillingen. Maria was the legitimate daughter of the deceased couple Martini OLSEM and Margaretha MAY of Colmar. Witnesses to the marriage were J.P. MAY from Bastendorf (could he have been a maternal uncle?) and Franciscus CONCEMIUS from Bettendorf. The groom, bride, and father of the groom left their mark while the two witnesses to the marriage signed their names. [Names are given as found in the marriage record.]

1791 Marriage Record of Mathias and Maria [1]

Mathias’ Parents

Mathias’ parents were Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH (1741-1811) and Catharina FEDERSPIEL (1746-1785). Catharina died on 30 November 1785 in Dillingen.[2] She left her husband Johann with three sons and a daughter between the ages of 2 and 15 years. Records for this family were found in Wallendorf-Pont and Beaufort.

Maria’s Parents

Maria’s parents were Martin HUNTGES also known as Martin OLSEM (1722-1782) and Margaretha MAY (1727-1789). They were the parents of six known children who carried the OLSEM surname and were born in Colmar between 1756-1773. When Martin OLSEM died on 13 October 1782 in Colmar and was buried in Berg,[3] he left his wife with five children at home. Their oldest son had married earlier in the year. Margaretha, Maria’s mother, saw her two oldest daughters marry before she died on 6 June 1789 in Colmar and was buried in Berg.[4] Maria was now the oldest unmarried child with a younger brother and sister.

The First Clue to an Error

1791 death entry in the parish register of Wallendorf [5]
Following the marriage of Mathias and Maria in 1791, a Johann TIVELS died on 20 August 1791 in Dillingen.[5] The record was misinterpreted by an earlier researcher who attributed the death to Mathias’ father Johann TIVELS. When I viewed the death record, I questioned it being for the father as it read Joannes infansis Joannis Tivels (Johann child or infant of Johann Tivels). Johann Sr. was, I thought, a widower at the time and would have been seen in the parish register entry as viduus.

Mathias and Maria’s Children

Mathias and Maria lived in Dillingen their entire married life. They likely attended the little church seen above in the background. The old cobblestone paved bridge which crosses the Sauer River, the border between Luxembourg and Germany, leads into the town.

The first known child of Mathias and Maria was a male stillborn on 5 July 1794 in Dillingen.[6] The information is attributed to the Familienbuch der kath. Pfarrei St.Peter und Paul in Wallendorf by Mathias Emil Hubsch. The family book of Wallendorf includes the towns of Hösdorf (1744-1822), Ammeldingen and Biesdorf (1744-1899) and Dillingen (1744-1807). I’ll check the book when I visit the Archive Luxracines tomorrow.

Maria and Mathias’s second child, a daughter Maria FRIDERICH was born on 14 April 1796 in Dillingen.[7] Her birth was found in the index to the microfilm records Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898.

1846 Census for the KREMER-FRIEDERICH family of Bettendorf [8]
On 14 April 1802, exactly six years later Elisabeth FRIEDERICH, the last known child of Mathias and Maria, was born in Dillingen. Her birth record has not been located. The date of birth was found on the 1846 census.[8] Or should I use 15 April 1803, the date found on the 1849 census?[9] Normally a date of birth would be found on her marriage record but, in this case, her age and date of birth were omitted on the record. At the time of death on 28 October 1871, she was listed as 70 years old.

Mathias’ Father Dies

Château de Beaufort by N. Maroldt, Diekirch. From a series of ten framed photographs of castles in Luxembourg, private collection of the Meder-Dempsey Family.

Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH, father of Mathias, lived twenty years longer than first believed. Mathias was 39 years old when he went before Johann Georg EVEN, mayor of Beaufort, and reported the death of his father in Dillingen on 4 August 1811 in his home known as Thivels. The death record had a surprising detail. Johann left a widow named Maria BOUR.[10]

1811 death record for Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH [10]
Further research showed that due to the nature of the surnames used in different records [changing surnames and house names] the connection had not been made by others who have researched the areas of Wallendorf, Dillingen, Colmar, and Beaufort. I believe this is due to the difference between research done for family books of towns and research done for families. Town family books are wonderful references but verification of the dates and places for the individuals and family groups needs to be obtained by accessing the records.
Marriage Index Cards for the marriages of Tivels-Federspiel [11] and Friderich-Boor [12]
Johann THIVELS married Catharina FEDERSPIEL[11] and Johann FRIEDERICH married Maria BOUR.[12] Since the Johann who married Catharina was believed to have died in 1791 the connection to Johann who married Maria BOUR was not made. The son Mathias from the first marriage is the common denominator and led me to the records which I believe prove only one Johann married both ladies. His second marriage[12] took place three and a half months after his first wife’s death.[2] I am still working on the children of the second marriage. The death record[13] of a son Peter who lived less than a month and died in 1786 lists the father as Joannis FREDERICH vulgo TIVELS and shows the connection between the two names as is later seen on Johann’s death record.[10]

Mathias Dies

A year after he was seen as the informant on his father’s death record, Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS died on 16 August 1812 in Dillingen.[14] He left a wife, Maria OLSEM, and a daughter Elisabeth who was just ten years old.

Other Connections

Château de Berg by N. Maroldt, Diekirch. From a series of ten framed photographs of castles in Luxembourg, private collection of the Meder-Dempsey Family.

So little is known of the FRIDERICH-OLSEM couple that I focused my research a bit more closely on the siblings of Mathias and Maria. Although I knew Maria lived another 16 years after Mathias died and would die in Dillingen, I wondered if there may be stronger connections between her and her family in Colmar. This turned up a strange intertwined connection.

Maria’s brother Dominique OLSEM was 38 years old when he married the 26 years old Susanne HAMES on 18 May 1806 in Berg. [15] They had four children.

Mathias’ youngest sibling and only sister Marie TIWELS married Joseph KOOB on 11 January 1808 in Bettendorf.[16] She was 26 years old. They had a son.

Dominique OLSEM died on 28 Mar 1813 in Colmar[17] and Marie TIWELS died on 16 May 1815 in Moestroff.[18] Dominique’s widow Susanne HAMES and Marie’s widower Joseph KOOB married on 29 November 1815 in Berg.[19] Perhaps Marie played matchmaker for her sister-in-law and brother-in-law. Or the matchmaker could have been her older brother Nicolas OLSEM who was a witness to the marriage in Berg.

Marie Dies

Marie OLSEM died on 1 April 1828 in Dillingen. [20] The informant gave her age as 73 years but she was only 64. She was survived by her daughter Elisabeth and one living sibling, Maria Barbara OLSEM who died on 16 December 1829 in Wiltz.[21]

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH was not yet married and celebrated her 26th birthday a little over two weeks after her mother’s death. Almost two years later, on 17 February 1830, she married Nicolas KREMER (1797-1867) in Bettendorf [22] to begin her own little family. It would not be a happy first year of marriage…. Her story continues here.

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 88 of 438. 1791 Marriage Record (second entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32461-5216-23?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F:1501154317,1501199302 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[2] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 47 of 438. 1785 Death Record (left page, 4th entry).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-975T?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : 9 January 2015).
[3] Ibid., Bissen > Baptêmes 1779-1784, mariages 1779-1784, sépultures 1779-1784 > image 45 of 68. 1782 Death Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-QQRD?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-DPN%3A1500938201%2C1500938202 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[4] Ibid., Bissen > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1785-1793 > image 99 of 186. 1789 Death Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9W7K?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-FMS%3A1500938201%2C1500938228 : accessed 24 April 2017),.
[5] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 87 of 438. 1791 Death Record (left page, 6th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-975C?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[6] Mathias Emil Hubsch, compiler. Die Pfarrei Sankt Peter und Paul in der Grenzortschaft Wallendorf (Kreis Bitburg-Prum) : mit den filialen Ammeldingen und Biesdorf 1744-1899 sowie den heutigen Luxemburger filialen Dillingen, Pfarrei Befort 1744-1807 und Hosdorf, Pfarrei Reisdorf 1744-1822
[7] Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 / Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898, (index), FamilySearch, FHL microfilm 530,206. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLBY-1BV : accessed 25 April 2017), Maria Friderich, born and christened 14 Apr 1796, father Mathias Friderich, mother Anna Maria Olsem; citing Wallendorf, Rheinland, Preussen.
[8] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > 1846 > image 27 of 334. 1846 Kremer-Friederich household.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32356-27262-77?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-BZ9:346114101,345858602 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[9] Ibid., Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[10] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890  > image 427 of 1474. 1811 Death Record (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRY7-FHY?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38%3A129623701%2C129687501 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[11] Luxembourg parish records, Wallendorf-Pont > Tables des mariages 1746-1802 (index organisée par l’époux) > image 197 of 210. 1769 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-SKC7?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K6P%3A1501154317%2C1501154318 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[12] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont >  Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 63 of 210. 1786 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-S29P?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K6P%3A1501154317%2C1501154318 : accessed 26 April 2017).
[13] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 54 of 438. “1786 Baptismal Record (left page, 4th entry).” 1786 Death Record (right page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-97PC?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : acccessed 26 April 2017).
[14] Luxembourg Civil Records, Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 440 of 1474. 1812 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-147496-32?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015).
[15] Ibid., Berg > Mariages 1796-1858 > image 24 of 270. 1806 Marriage Record , part 1 (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-NCR?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6J%3A129623401%2C129709001 : accessed 25 April 2017) cont. on next image.
[16] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 1409 of 1507. 1808 Marriage Record (first part on right page).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X2M3-GF?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9%3A129626601%2C129945501 : accessed 25 April 2017) cont. on next image.
[17] Ibid., Berg > Décès 1796-1830 > image 80 of 167. 1813 Death Record (right page, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-K29?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6X%3A129623401%2C129623402 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 953 of 1494. 1815 Death Record (left page, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-6XM?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[19] Ibid., Berg > Mariages 1796-1858 > image 65 of 270. 1815 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-P4D?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6J%3A129623401%2C129709001 : 17 July 2014).
[20] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 676 of 1474. 1828 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-141484-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015) Note: May be an error on record as she was listed as age 73 therefore b. 1755.
[21] Ibid., Wiltz > Mariages 1886-1890 Décès 1797-1862  > image 587 of 1390. 1829 Death Record No. 48. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62TJ-G1?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-4WL%3A130592301%2C130900801 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[22] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 220 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39950-62?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).

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Update: Another Door Opens in the KREMER-WINANDY Brick Wall

This morning I had a Message Request on Facebook from Linda. Her message helped me open another door in the KREMER-WINANDY brick wall. This isn’t the first time she’s helped me out. She’s the lady who inspired me to write A Latin Rule You May Not Have Known.

1793 Marriage Index Card for CREMERS and VINANDI.

In my 52 Ancestors: #16 A Door Opens in the KREMER-WINANDY Brick Wall post yesterday I wrote about how my excitement dwindled as I read through the actual entry in the parish register for the marriage event of Wilhelmus CREMERS and Maria Magdalena VENANDY in Fouhren. The marriage record I found didn’t have the names of the parents of the groom and I did not know where the names seen on the marriage index card (above) came from.

Linda found the another copy of the marriage record in Fouhren in which Wilhelmus CREMERS’ parents’ names were included.

“Luxembourg registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948,” images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9Q44?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-BZ4%3A1500942601%2C1500942602 : 9 January 2015), Fouhren > image 130 of 141; paroisses, Luxembourg (parishes, Luxembourg).

May I introduce you to my children’s 6th great-grandparents Henri and Magdalena CREMERS of Arzfeld, parents of Wilhelm CREMERS aka Wilhem KREMER (ca. 1762-1814).

A Lesson Learned

While working with the parish records on FamilySearch I’ve noticed some records are included twice – having been kept in a kind of double accounting system. I should have thought of this when I noticed the parents of the groom’s names were missing.

Linda once again taught me a lesson. When working with FamilySearch collections, check the catalog and pay attention to the year range given for each batch. There may be more than one copy of the record and they may not be identical.

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52 Ancestors: #16 A Door Opens in the KREMER-WINANDY Brick Wall

Before I begin writing my 52 Ancestors posts, I review the information I have, revise notes, check for missing information, and add or fix source citations. The process has twofold results. I’m getting my stories written and my database is being cleaned up at the same time.

For the family group featured this week, I had the baptismal record for one daughter, marriage records for the daughter and three sons, and death records for the mother and five known children. I was stuck and thought I would end up doing only a short recap of the information I already shared in my post 52 Ancestors: #34 KREMER-FRIEDERICH Family – Using Substitutes to Tell Their Story.

But the parents and siblings of Nicolas KREMER (1797-1867), my children’s 4th great-grandfather, still deserved a few hours of research.

A Key to Open the Door in this Brick Wall

Let me introduce you to Joseph CREMERS who had the key in his baptismal record[1] which led to my finding the missing information.

12 December 1798 Baptismal Record of Joseph CREMERS.[1]
Today the 23rd day of the month Frimaire in the 7th year of the French Republic at 9 o’clock in the morning came before me, Pierre Peters, agent of the commune of Hosingen … Wilhelm CREMERS, herder, resident of Wahlhausen, assisted by Jacob Meyers and Peter Theis, both of age and residents of Wahlhausen, and declared that Magdelene VENANDY, a native of Fouhren in the canton of Vianden and his legal wife gave birth yesterday the 22nd day of the present month at [illegible] o’clock in the evening at his home in Wahlhausen, a male child who he presented and gave the name Joseph, …. the citizens Jacob Meyers and Peter Theis confirmed this was true …. they signed in the presence of the agent and the father declared not being able to write.[1] (a rough translation)

The Wall Came Tumbling Down

Joseph’s baptismal record led to my searching the church records of Fouhren for the baptismal record of the mother who was a native of the town. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I had no idea how old the mother was and soon became frustrated with viewing the old script. I asked myself, “If she was a native of the town, did she marry there?”

I checked the marriage index cards and found the marriage of Wilhelmus CREMERS and Maria Magdalena VENANDY in Fouhren.[2]

1793 Marriage Index Card for CREMERS and VINANDI.[2]
I was ecstatic when I found this card with the names of the bride and groom as well as their parents’ names. My excitement dwindled as I read through the actually entry in the parish records for the marriage event.[3]

1793 Marriage Record for Wilhelmus CREMERS and Maria Magdalena VENANDI.[3]
On the 3rd of June 1793 after proclamation in the church parishes of Fouhren and Stolzembourg and, there being no impediment to the marriage, were joined in marriage of mutual consent Wilhelmus CREMERS of Arsfeld, a parishioner of Stolzembourg, and Maria Magdalena VENANDI, daughter of Joannes VENANDI and Maria HOSINGER of Stolzembourg who attend the Walsdorff parish of Fouhren and have their fixed domicile in Stolzembourg. Witnesses were Joannes Urhausen, a married man of Stolzembourg, and Joannes Lentz, a widower from Walsdorff. The bride and groom signed with their mark and the witnesses with their names.[3] (a rough translation)

The marriage record brought to light two things. First, the parents of the groom were not mentioned on the record. Did the person who typed up this index card “know” the names of the parents or did he misread the record as it is on the bottom of one page and top of the next? Second, the couple had a reason for marrying. Since the until now earliest record for this couple was the birth of their daughter Eva on 10 September 1793, we can imagine the reason they were married on 3 June 1793.

And Then I Found More Children

With the discovery of the son Joseph and the marriage record, I searched again for other children born in Hosingen and Weiler area, where previously found children were born. From Joseph’s baptismal record I knew Wilhelm was a herder and the family may have wandered around. I found two more baptismal records and two death records. Two sons were discovered in the GEDCOM file of a Luxracines member on my genealogy society’s site however I was not able to find the records to support the dates and places. After sending him a query, Rob Deltgen pointed me in the right direction. Using his tip I found three of the four missing birth records and three death records. I now have all marriages and deaths for the family documented as well as the births of seven of the nine children. For the two missing birth records I have marriage records, secondary evidence of the births.

CREMERS-VENANDI to KREMER-WINANDY

Wilhelm CREMERS married Maria Magdalena VENANDI on 3 June 1793 in Fouhren. Madelaine, as she would be known in later years, was the daughter of Joannes VENANDI and Maria HOSINGER of Stolzembourg.[3]

1793 Baptismal Record of Eva KRIEMER. [4]
Three months later at 9 o’clock in the morning of Tuesday, 10 September 1793 Maria Magdalena VENANDI gave birth to her first child. The father Wilhelmi KRIEMER reported the birth of the female child who was baptized the same day and named Eva. Her godmother was Eva VENANDI of Stolzembourg and her godfather was Joannes SCHNEIDERS of Putscheid.[4] [The godparents have been tagged for future research.]

The second known child of Madelaine and Wilhelm was their son Nicolas KREMER (1797-1867) born in Hosingen on 1 March 1797. The birth and/or baptism of this child was not found as records for the years 1794-1797 appear to be missing for Hosingen. The date and place of birth were found on his 1830 marriage record.[5]

On Wednesday the 22nd day of the month of Frimaire in the 8th year of the French Republic (13 December 1798) Madelaine gave birth to Joseph CREMERS (1798-1822) in Wahlhausen. The father Wilhelm’s occupation at the time was herder or pâtre. The birth record was a civil record, not a church record, and did not include names of godparents.[1]

Marguerite CREMERS (1801-1803) was born at 4 o’clock in the morning on the 9th day of the month Floreal in the 9th year of the French Republic or 29 April 1801 in Wahlhausen. Two farmers from the town were witnesses and the father declared not being able to write.[6] Marguerite died at the age of 23 months on the 13th day of Pluviose in the 11th year or 2 February 1803 in Wahlhausen. At the time of her death the father Wilhelm was working as a day laborer or journalier.[7]

Madelaine likely conceived shortly after her daughter Marguerite died. Marie CREMERS (1803-1840) was born at 8 in the evening of the 20th day of Brumaire year 12 or 12 November 1803 in Wahlhausen. Her birth was recorded in the commune of Hosingen and witnessed by two farmers from that town.[8]

The sixth child of Wilhelm and Madelaine was born at 5 in the morning on 26 April 1806 in Nachtmanderscheid. Mathias was the name his 40 years old father, a herdman or bouvier gave him.[9]

A son named Paul was born on 30 May 1808 in Weiler. The record found to document the birth of Paul KREMER (1808-1859) was his 1830 marriage record.[10]

On 20 February 1811 at 8 in the morning another son born in Weiler was given the name Mathieu, the French version of Mathias, even though the first son with this name was still living. His father was listed as a 46 years old cowherd or Kühhirt.[11] Did the parents make a mistake when naming their son or did they know one or both would not survive the year?

On 14 October 1811 the elder Mathias died in Weiler.[12] His baby brother, also named Mathias died on 27 December 1811, also in Weiler.[13] The family was reduced to two daughters and three sons.

Two years later the last child of Wilhelm and Madelaine was born in 9 November 1813 in Weiler.[14] The father, a 50 years old cowherd, declared his son Jacob was born at 8 in the evening to his wife.

On 29 January 1814 at 9 o’clock in the morning Madelaine and a neighbor went to the commune of Landscheid to declare the death of her husband Wilhelm KREMER who died the previous day in Weiler in the Hintner Haus. Madelaine, who could not write, left her mark on the death record. Her age was given as 42 years (b. abt. 1772).[15]

The mother of two daughters and four sons between the ages of 20 years and less than 3 months may have tried to keep the family together for the next 8 years. Her second oldest son Joseph was in his early twenties when he died at 6 o’clock in the morning on 20 February 1822 in Wahlhausen in a house called Schneiders. His mother and a farmer named Theodor SCHNEIDERS reported his death. Joseph had been working as a day laborer, likely in service with the farmer.[16] [Further research is planned as the eldest daughter Eva’s godfather was also a SCHNEIDERS, i.e. a possible relation to the KREMER, WINANDY, or HOSINGER families?]

Eva KREMER married Nicolas DIFFERDING (1792-1869) on 15 October 1822 in Landscheid.[17] In retrospect, the location of her marriage should have lead me to the records of her missing siblings. Records for Weiler and Nachmanderscheid for the period the siblings were born and died were kept in Landscheid and found in the Bastendorf collection.

Following Joseph’s death and Eva’s marriage things were quiet until 1830. The oldest son Nicolas had moved to Bettendorf sometime prior to his marriage on 17 February 1830 to Elisabeth FRIEDERICH (1802-1871). His mother came to Bettendorf for the marriage from Eisenbach where she was living at the time.[5]

A little more than a month later Nicolas’ brother Paul who was living in Hosingen married Marie DIEDERICH on 27 March 1830 in Bettendorf. His mother Madelaine was living in Merscheid but came to Bettendorf for the marriage.[10]

Madelaine may have taken ill soon after the wedding or planned on staying in Bettendorf as she did not go back home to Merscheid. Four days later on 31 March 1830 at 7 o’clock in the morning she died in the house of Christian DIEDERICH, Paul KREMER’s father-in-law. Christian DIEDERICH was the informant on her death record and listed as her neighbor. The age given on the death record was 74 years (b. abt. 1756).[18] She was more likely about 58 years old. The only record with an age for her was the death record of her husband Wilhelm in 1814 when she was listed as 42 years old. Another discrepancy on her death record was her place of birth which was listed as Bettendorf, the town she died in. No birth or baptismal record was found for Madelaine however her marriage record indicates she may have been from Stolzembourg or according the baptismal record of her son Joseph she was a native of Fouhren.

Five years after the marriages of Nicolas and Paul and the death of their mother, their youngest brother Jacques was marrying Cathérine KORB (1813-1895) on 27 February 1835 in Bettendorf. Jacques was living in Weiler at the time and Cathérine was from Bettendorf.[19] They made their home in Bettendorf after the marriage.

The marriage record of Jacques KREMER erroneously listed his mother’s death as taking place on 30 March 1814 in Weiler instead of in 1830 in Bettendorf. Marriage records in Luxembourg are full of important genealogical information however the primary source is needed to substantiate the information which is only secondary evidence. It took me a while to learn this lesson in the early years of my genealogical research as I relied heavily on marriage records.

After the marriage of the youngest KREMER only the oldest daughter Eva was not living in Bettendorf. She lived and raised her family in Gralingen. Her three married brothers Nicolas, Paul, and Jacques were raising their families in Bettendorf where their sister Marie also lived. At the time of Marie’s death she was living in the home Christian DIEDERICH and did not work. She died on 12 May 1840 at the age of 36 years (the death record indicates 39) and her death was reported by her oldest brother Nicolas.[20]

Eight years later the youngest of the KREMER siblings, Jacques, died on 23 July 1848 in Bettendorf. His death was reported by his father-in-law.[21] Jacques who was only 34 when he died, had lived with his wife and children in the home of his father-in-law. His wife Cathérine outlived him by 47 years.

NIne years after Jacques’ death the now youngest living sibling, Paul KREMER died on 9 March 1859 in Bettendorf. His son-in-law Johann THEIS reported his death and did not know the names of the deceased parents. Paul’s age on the record was 52 years although he was only 50.[22]

From 1859 until 1867 the only living children of Wilhelm and Madelaine were their two oldest children Eva and Nicolas. On 8 February 1867 Nicolas KREMER died in Bettendorf at the age of 69. His son Anton reported the death and added 10 years to his father’s age.[23]

This must have been a family trait as Eva’s son Johann DIFFERDING reported that his mother Eva KREMER who died on 3 July 1867 in Gralingen was 80 years old when her true age was only 73.[24]

Wilhelm CREMERS later known as Wilhelm KREMER and Maria Magdalena VENANDI later known as Madelaine WINANDY were a challenge to research. I began with five known children and very few records and ended up with nine children and records to document nearly all important dates in the family’s life other than the births of Wilhelm ca. 1766 and Madelaine ca. 1772, my children’s 5th great-grandparents.

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Hosingen > Naissances 1798-1822 > image 7 of 395. 1798 Birth Record (22 Frimaire An 7). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L8S-GST?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4W5%3A129905301%2C130379001 : accessed 15 April 2017).
[2] Ibid., Fouhren > Tables des mariages 1726-1797 (index organisée par l’époux) > image 43 of 198. 1793 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-SPY?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-DPR%3A1500942601%2C1501164506 : 9 January 2015).
[3] Ibid., Fouhren > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 141 of 245. 1793 Marriage Record (right, last entry – continued on next image). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9QNT?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-BZW%3A1500942601%2C1500913302 : 9 January 2015).
[4] Ibid., Putscheid > Naissances 1779-1831 > image 141 of 299. 1793 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11541-110845-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-4WL:130227001,130321101 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[5] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 220 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39950-62?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[6] Ibid., Hosingen > Naissances 1798-1822 > image 55 of 395. 1801 Birth Record (9 Floreal year 9). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L8S-XZJ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4W5%3A129905301%2C130379001 : accessed 15 April 2017).
[7] Ibid., Hosingen > Mariages 1863-1890 Décès 1798-1876 > image 367 of 1487. 1803 Death Record (13 Pluviose 11). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DKRS-PGJ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-W38%3A129905301%2C130182001 : accesed 17 April 2017).
[8] Ibid., Hosingen > Naissances 1798-1822 > image 95 of 395. 1803 Birth Record (20 Brumaire an 12).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L8S-ZRH?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4W5%3A129905301%2C130379001 : accessed 17 April 2017).
[9] Ibid., Bastendorf > Naissances 1800-1823, 1798-1823, 1828-1890 Mariages 1778-1823 > image 211 of 1476. 1806 Birth Record (right page, bottom). https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6277-MD6?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-MNL%3A129624201%2C129879301 : accessed 20 April 2017). Continued on next image.
[10] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 212 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-FCD?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid., Bastendorf > Naissances 1800-1823, 1798-1823, 1828-1890 Mariages 1778-1823 > image 247 of 1476. 1811 Birth Record No. 4. (bottom left, top right). https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627Q-1J4?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-MNL%3A129624201%2C129879301 : accessed 20 April 2017).
[12] Ibid., Bastendorf > Décès 1798-1823 > image 81 of 143. 1811 Death Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PQC-HSK?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-827%3A129624201%2C129649901 : accessed 20 April 2017).
[13] Ibid., Bastendorf > Décès 1798-1823 > image 82 of 143. 1811 Death Record No. 14 (lower right, next image upper left). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PQC-F7Z?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-827%3A129624201%2C129649901 : accessed 20 April 2017).
[14] Ibid., Bastendorf > Naissances 1800-1823, 1798-1823, 1828-1890 Mariages 1778-1823 > image 265 of 1476. 1813 Birth Record No. 15. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6277-9S6?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-MNL%3A129624201%2C129879301 : accessed 20 April 2017).
[15] Ibid., Bastendorf > Décès 1798-1823 > image 95 of 143. 1814 Death Record No. 1.  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PQC-FQQ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-827%3A129624201%2C129649901 : accessed 20 April 2017).
[16] Ibid., Putscheid > Naissances 1839-1890 Mariages 1798-1890 Décès 1798-1858 > image 1143 of 1481. 1822 Death Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-69G8-8Q?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-K68%3A130227001%2C130423701 : accessed 18 April 2017),.
[17] Ibid., Bastendorf > Mariages 1800-1823 > image 184 of 196. 1822 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-249592-40?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2CG:n1464610767 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1095 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38474-75?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 14 Apr 2013).
[19] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 269 of 1494. 1835 Marriage Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-40497-91?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[20] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1235 of 1494. 1840 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39485-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[21] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1346 of 1494. 1848 Death Record No. 40. ((https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41065-23?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[22] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1478 of 1494. 1859 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41053-41?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 21 March 2010).
[23] Ibid., Bettendorf > Décès 1860-1890 > image 118 of 465. 1867 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11711-67192-17?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZR:n1595569028 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[24] Ibid., Putscheid > Décès 1859-1890 > image 108 of 381. 1867 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11564-48433-11?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-L84:n1201975605 : accessed 01 Mar 2013).

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52 Ancestors: #10 The SCHMITT Family of Kalberger Hof

Kalberger Hof

Kalberger Hof is a farm just 1 kilometer northwest of Erlenbach near Hetzerath in Germany. On the map below, it’s location is marked with a little house icon in a green circle. This is about 50 kilometers (31 miles) from Echternach where I live.


The farm was first mentioned in documents in 1409 when Heinrich Muil von der Neuerburg, declared he had signed over to his wife Metzen an annual pension of 50 florins on half of the villages of Zemmer, Gransdorf, and Rodenerden, the estate of Kallberg, and other estates belonging to the Abbey of Echternach. Lease agreements for the years 1533 and 1541 and 1547 document the farm’s ownership and administrators. After the death of Jakob von Rheineck in 1541 the farm went to his son-in-law Johann von Warsberg.

Until the middle of the 17th century, Kalberg consisted of one household. Towards the end of the 17th century, the farm was apparently divided and a second farm, Emmerichs Hof, was established. Three generations of the SCHMITT family leased Kalberger Hof over a period of nearly 100 years.

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Kalberger Hof, photo courtesy of Thomas Eifel, used with permission.

Philipp SCHMITT, the father of Friedrich (featured later in this post), administered the Kalberger Hof from 1748 until his death. In 1769, Johann SCHMITT, his oldest son, was given the stock of the Kalberger Hof and the Emmerichs Hof to manage for nine years. Philipp died in 1783; his son Johann died six years later. The widow Appolonia MATHES (or MATTES) administered the farm from 1789 until 1796. Her son Friedrich SCHMITT, the then oldest living son, took over the farm in 1796 until his death in 1829. After his death, Kalberger Hof continued to be managed by his widow, Maria Elisabeth PLEIN, and their oldest son. In 1842 Nikolaus SCHMITT and his mother, the widow of Friederich SCHMITT, paid taxes to the parish. The charges were calculated in bushels and pecks, in old fruit dimensions for cereals and potatoes, and in hundredweight and pounds for straw. The level of these charges was calculated from the total tax revenues of individual persons. In 1855 the Kalberger Hof had one residential building and 15 inhabitants. In the years 1845-1848, the present house and the stable were built.

From 1844 to 1917 there is a gap in the list of names of the persons who were managing Kalberger Hof per the research of Thomas Eifel seen under Kalberger Hof on his website Heckenmünster. On 30 July 2011 I received permission from Mr. Eifel to include his article (in German) with source citation on the farm in my database. I would not have been able to write the history of Kalberger Hof during the time the SCHMITT family managed it without his research.

The SCHMITT-PLEIN Family

Philipp SCHMITT and his wife Appolonia MATTES were my children’s 6th great-grandparents. My children descend from the second son Friedrich featured here with his wife and children.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Fridericus “Friederich” SCHMITT
Parents:  Philipp SCHMITT and Appolonia MATTES
Spouse: Maria Elisabeth PLEIN
Parents of spouse: Matthias PLEIN and Margaretha VALERIUS
Whereabouts: Kalberger Hof, Diesburgerhof, Osweiler, Echternach
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandparents

2. Fridericus “Friederich” SCHMITT and Maria Elisabeth PLEIN
2. Nicolaus “Nicolas” SCHMITT
3. Catharina SCHMITT
4. Johannes “Johann” “Jean” SCHWARTZ
5. Catharina “Catherine” “Ketty” “Ged” SCHWARTZ
6. Marcel Mathias MEDER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

Friedrich “Fridericus” SCHMITT was born[1],[2],[3],[4],[5] about 19 June 1761 on Kalberger Hof, Burgermeisterei Heidweiler, Kreis Wittlich, Preußen (Germany). The son of Philipp SCHMITT and Appolonia MATTES was baptized[6] the same day in Heidweiler, the closest (parish) town to the farm his parents managed. He died[1],[2],[7],[8] on 5 March 1829 on Kalberger Hof.

Friedrich married[1],[2],[3],[9], [10], [11] Maria Elisabeth PLEIN, daughter of Matthias PLEIN and Margaretha VALERIUS, on 8 June 1790 in Heidweiler. Maria was born[1],[2],[3],[12] on 2 November 1766 in Niersbach (Bernkastel-Wittlich, Germany). She was baptized[13] the same day in Arrenrath. Her godparents were Maria Elis. WEBER and Nik. HEGENER from Niersbach. She died[1],[2],[3],[14] on 22 January 1845 on Kalberger Hof.

Friedrich and Maria had the following children:

  1. Appolonia was born[15] about 8 July 1791 on Kalberger Hof. She was baptized[16] on 8 July 1791 in Heidweiler. She married[15] ,[17] Johann THIELEN on 4 February 1812 in Hetzerath (Wittlich, Germany).
  2. Nicolaus was born about 28 April 1793 on Kalberger Hof. He was baptized[18] on 28 April 1793 in Heidweiler. It is possible this child died before 12 July 1795 when the next son was born and named Nicolaus at baptism.
  3. Nicolaus “Nicolas” was born[2],[15],[19] on 11 July 1795 on Kalberger Hof. He was baptized[18] on 12 July 1795 in Heidweiler. He died[15],[21],[22],[23] on 17 October 1852 on Kalberger Hof. Nicolaus was seen on a tax list in 1842 on Kalberger Hof as seen in the narrative below. He married[15],[19],[24] Anna Maria “Marianna” WOLLSCHEID, daughter of Jacobus “Jacobi” WOLLSCHEID and Catharine BARTHELMES, on 17 January 1827 in Longuich (Trier-Saarburg). Anna was born[19] on 24 December 1800 in Kirsch (Longuich). She was baptized[25] on 25 December 1800 in Longuich. She died[22],[23],[26] on 3 November 1857 in Osweiler (Rosport, Luxembourg). Nicolas and Anna Maria were my children’s 4th great-grandparents.
  4. Anna Margaretha was born[15] about 20 October 1798 on Kalberger Hof. She was baptized[27] on 20 October 1798 in Heidweiler. She married[15] Christophorus “Christof” LOOS (1803-1850), son of Jakob LOHR and Margaretha SCHUSTER, on 2 February 1826 in Salmrohr (Germany).
  5. Catharina was born[15] about 17 May 1801 on Kalberger Hof. She was baptized[28] on 17 May 1801 in Heidweiler. She married[15] Jacob KREMER on 9 July 1830 in Heidweiler.
  6. Anna was born[15] about 12 December 1803 on Kalberger Hof. She was baptized[29] on 12 December 1803 in Heidweiler.
  7. Elisabetha was born[15] about 14 October 1807 on Kalberger Hof. She was baptized[30] on 14 October 1807 in Heidweiler. She married[15] Heinrich BRAND on 28 February 1832 in Dudeldorf.
  8. Maria was born[15] on 25 November 1809 on Kalberger Hof. She died[15] two days later, on 27 November 1809, on Kalberger Hof.

Maria Elisabeth PLEIN died in 1845. Friedrich, who died in 1829, and Maria Elisabeth’s daughters Appolonia, Anna Margaretha, Catharina, and Elisabetha married and left the family farm. Nikolaus, the only known son to have lived to adulthood, remained on the farm until his death in 1852. His widow Anna Maria WOLLSCHEID moved to the Diesburger Hof (Ferschweiler) before January 1855 and then to Osweiler before December 1855 where she lived with her daughter Catharina and son-in-law Johann SCHWARTZ until her death in November 1857.

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Sources:
1          Richard Schaffner, Familienbuch der Pfarrei St. Alexius Arenrath und Niersbach etwa 1658-1905, 2006-2008, page 207, family 1056. Schmitt-Plein family.
2          Armin Giebel, Ortsfamilienbuch des StA Longuich bis Okt. 1931 (June 2013), page 1799, family 8740. Schmitt-Plein family.
3          Albert Schwickert, Familienbuch Heidweiler 1709-1805 Orte: Dodenburg Greverath Münster (heute: Heckenmünster) Heidweiler, 1994, pages 523-524. Book viewed and pages photographed in Archiv Peter Daus (Wittlich) on 4 May 2013. Mathias Plein and Magaretha Valerius family.
4          Ibid., page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family; KB 2/2.
5          Ibid., page [unknown]. Philipp Schmitz and Apollonia Mattes entry; church register 2, page 2.
6          Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 / Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898, (index), FamilySearch, FHL microfilm 846,155. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX5H-D9Z : accessed 1 August 2015), Fridericus Schmitz, baptized 19 Jun 1761, father Philippi Schmitz, mother Appollonia; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland, Prussia.
7          Familienbuch Heidweiler, page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family; Civil register 1829, record 20.
8          Ibid., page [unknown]. Philipp Schmitz and Apollonia Mattes entry; civil register 1829, record 20.
9          Germany Marriages, 1558-1929, FHL microfilm 849,155. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHVR-KPF : accessed 26 December 2014), Fridericus Schmitz and Elisabetha Plein, 08 Jun 1790; citing Katholisch, Heidweiler, Rheinland, Prussia.
10         Familienbuch Heidweiler, page [unknown]. Philipp Schmitz and Apollonia Mattes entry; church register 2, page 133.
11         Ibid., page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family; Church Register 2/133.
12         Ibid., page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family; Arenrath Church Book 3, page 109.
13         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 849,147. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VH9L-XWV : accessed 1 August 2015), Maria Elisabetha Plein, baptized 02 Nov 1766, father Mathias Plein, mother Margarita; citing Roman Catholic records of Arrenrath, Rheinland, Prussia.
14         Familienbuch Heidweiler, page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family; Civil Register Heidweiler 3/1845.
15         Ibid., page 586. Friedrich Schmitz and Maria Elisabeth Plein family.
16         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 585,850. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKDV-DL6 : accessed 1 August 2015), Apolloniae Schmitz, baptized 8 Jul 1791, father Friderici Schmitz, mother Elisabethae; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
17         Germany Marriages 1558-1929, FHL microfilm 584,862. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHH7-47F : accessed 1 August 2015), Joannem Thielen and Apollonia Schmit, married 04 Feb 1812; citing Katholisch, Hetzerath Wittlich, Rheinland, Prussia.
18         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 585,850. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6SN-GP1 : accessed 1 August 2015), Nicolaus Schmit, baptized 28 Apr 1793, father Friderici Schmit, mother Elisabethae; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
19         Familienbuch Longuich, page 1812, family 8792. Nikolaus Schmitt and Marianna Wollscheid.
20         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 846,155. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTXK-T6X : accessed 1 August 2015), Nicolaus Schmid, baptized 12 Jul 1795, father Friderici Schmid, mother Elisabetha Plein; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
21         Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Rosport > Naissances 1889-1890 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1853 > image 643 of 1410. 1855 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11613-10947-44?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-L6L:n1038283664 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
22         Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1809 > image 1067 of 1462. 1860 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11670-167828-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-C68:129623201,129776101 : accessed 28 July 2011).
23         Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1809 > image 1154 of 1462. 1866 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11670-166074-78?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-C68:129623201,129776101 : accessed 28 July 2011).
24         Germany Marriages 1558-1929, FHL microfilm 469,141. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4FC-TYK : accessed 1 August 2015), Nicolaus Schmidt and Maria Anna Wolschett, married 17 Jan 1827, parents of groom Friderici Schmidt and Elisabethae Plein, parents of bride Jacobi Wolschett and Catharinae Barthelmaes; citing Longuich, Rheinland, Preußen, Germany.
25         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 469,141. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NC1V-N84 : accessed 28 July 2015), Maria Anna Wolschett, baptized 25 Dec 1800, father Jacobi Wolschett, mother Catharinae Barthelmaes; citing Longuich, Rheinland, Preußen, Germany.
26         Luxembourg Civil Records, Rosport > Décès 1853-1891 > image 52 of 510. 1857 Death Record No. 24. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11627-97505-85?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-L62:1818144340 : accessed 05 Apr 2013).
27         Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, FHL microfilm 584,863. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6SR-66X : accessed 1 August 2015), Anna Margaretha Schmitz, baptized 20 Oct 1798, father Friderici Schmitz, mother Elisabethae Plein; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
28         Ibid., (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6SR-63X : accessed 1 August 2015), Catharina Schmiz, baptized 17 May 1801, father Friderici Schmiz, mother Elisabethae Plein; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
29         Ibid., (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPN7-Q2L : accessed 1 August 2015), Anna Schmiz, baptized 12 Dec 1803, father Friderici Schmiz, mother Elisabethae Plein; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.
30         Ibid., (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKDG-G3X : accessed 1 August 2015), Elisabetha Schmit, baptized 14 Oct 1807, father Friderici Schmit, mother Elisabethae Plein; citing Catholic records of Heidweiler, Rheinland.

© 2017, copyright Cathy Meder-Dempsey. All rights reserved.

 

Happy Halloween and An Amusing Genealogical Find

catI couldn’t resist sharing this amusing genealogical find. While searching for a marriage record of my husband’s 4th great-grandparents in Vianden, Luxembourg, I came across this couple who married in 1696.

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Joes = common Latin abbreviation for Joannes
Le Mouton = sheep
Chat = cat
Goedert = from the Germanic personal name Godehart

A sheep named Joe marries a good hearted cat in 1696?

In 1696 the priest made four marriage entries, the first being for Joannes Le Mouton and Chat Goedert. My apologies to their descendants for making fun of the record but this may be the only way to bring it to their attention.

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Vianden Castle in the north of Luxembourg

vianden3P.S. OK so I got distracted! I’m still searching for the marriage record of Wilhelm “Guillaume” KREMER and Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY. They married 1793 or earlier somewhere in northern Luxembourg.

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

52 Ancestors: #36 The GRISIUS-SCHAEFFER Family – Working for a Living

Week 36 (September 3-9) – Working for a Living: September 7 is Labor Day in the United States. Write about an ancestor and his or her occupation.

Father and Son Were Cow Herders

cowsA cow’s milk will spoil if she does not want to stand during milking. Fixation does not always work. An easier way is to dip a large piece of linen in cold water and drape it over the cow’s back, she will then stand up for milking. ~ advice seen in 1841 in the Diekircher Wochenblatt, a weekly publication.

My husband’s 3rd great-grandfather Frederich GRISIUS (1805-1852) more than likely learned this trick from his father. Frederich and his father Mathias (1776-1846) were both cow herders (Khehirt, Küh Hirt, vaché). They were illiterate and in all records found, could not sign their names. The tricks to their trade were learned by watching and doing and not by reading about it in a farmer’s almanac or other guide.

How do I know this was their occupation?

certificateWhen Frederich married in 1833 the supporting documentation for his marriage included the above document signed by the mayor stating the groom did not owe taxes or have any other income other than what he made working in his occupation as a cow herder (vaché). Due to his low income he was allowed to produce civil records without a tax stamp. This was the only document found for Frederich which states his precise occupation. In all other civil and census records he was seen only as a day laborer.

publicationIn the publication of the marriage banns, Mathias GRISIUS, the father of the groom, was listed as Kühhirt or cow herder.

The GRISIUS-SCHAEFFER Family

Frederich GRISIUS, son of Mathias GRISIUS and Magdalena SCHAETTER, was born on 9 March 1805 in Alscheid/Alschette, Canton de Wiltz, Grand Duché de Luxembourg.[1],[2] He died on 16 December 1852 in Hoscheid-Dickt, Hoscheid.[3] Frederich married Catherina SCHAEFFER, daughter of Nicolas SCHAEFFER and Theresia GREISCH, on 3 July 1833 in Hoscheid.[4],[5],[6] Catherina was born on 14 April 1815 in Eschdorf, Wiltz.[7] She died on 16 January 1898 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[8]

They had the following children.

  1. Mathias GRISIUS was born on 29 September 1835 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[9] He died on 13 December 1835 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[10]
  2. Franz “François” GRISIUS was born on 30 March 1837 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[11] He died on 18 February 1901 in Schlindermanderscheid.[12] Franz married Catherine KOOB on 7 February 1859 in Hoscheid.[13] Catherine was born on 1 December 1839 in Alscheid.
  3. Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS was born on 25 June 1839 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[14] He died on 14 October 1904 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[15] Heinrich married Marie Mangers, daughter of Mathieu MANGERS and Anne Marie WECKERING, on 8 November 1860 in Wilwerwiltz.[16] Marie was born on 13 Jan 1837 in Enscherange.[17] She died
    on 2 Jan 1871 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[18] Heinrich also married Elisabeth “Elise” WECKERING, daughter of Antoin “Anton” WECKERING and Margaretha “Marguerite” BERNARD, on 29 October 1874 in Hoscheid.[19] Elisabeth was born on 9
    May 1853 in Hoscheid.[20] She died on 14 February 1905 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[21]
  4. Petrus “Pierre” GRISIUS was born on 31 August 1841 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[22] He died on 22 January 1909 in Rodange.[23] Petrus married Susanne FABER, daughter of Nicolas FABER and Susanne POOS, on 5 February 1863 in Hoscheid.[24] Susanne was born on 16 May 1832 in Tadler.[25] She died on 29 February 1876 in Hoscheid.[26] Petrus also married Cathérine DOENER on 16 June 1876 in Hoscheid.[27]
  5. Margaretha “Marguerite” GRISIUS was born on 28 January 1844 in Hoscheid-
    Dickt.[28] She died on 23 October 1877 in Kautenbach.[29] Margaretha had an illegitimate child before she married Gaspar KREMER on 1 August 1872 in Alscheid.[30] Gaspar was born on 10 July 1824 in Dasburg, Rheinland Pfalz, Germany.
  6. Bernardus “Engelbernd” GRISIUS was born on 10 April 1847 in Hoscheid-
    Dickt.[31] He was not found with the family after 1852. Being quite young in age he may have died leaving no death record or died while visiting a friend or relative in another town.
  7. Anna Maria “Anne Marie” GRISIUS was born on 17 August 1850 in Hoscheid-
    Dickt.[32] She died on 2 January 1915 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[33] Anna had an illegitimate child before she married Jean MAJERUS, son of Mathieu MAJERUS and Madeleine REITER, on 2 August 1876 in Hoscheid.[34] Jean was born on 27 November 1848 in Bockholtz sur Sûre, Wiltz.[35] He died on 21 April 1918 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[36]
  8. Pierre “Peter” GRISIUS was born on 25 August 1852 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[37] He died on 22 December 1917 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[38] Pierre married Susanne ZENNER on 18 Oct 1873 in Clervaux.[39] Susanne was born on 3 January 1846 in Urspelt, Clervaux.[40] She died on 25 April 1924 in Esch-sur-Alzette.

The WIRTZ-SCHAEFFER Family

Catherina SCHAEFFER also married Nicolas WIRTZ, son of Anne Marie WIRTZ, on 30 November 1855 in Hoscheid.[41] Nicolas was born on 19 March 1833 in Weimerskirch. He died on 16 July 1882 in the Central Hospiz in Ettelbrück.[42]

Catherina and Nicolas had one child, Hubertus “Hubert” WIRTZ born on 22 December 1856 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[43] Hubert married Margaretha HOPP on 19 July 1876 in Hoscheid.[44] Hubert and his wife were last seen in the 1880 census with their first born.

The mother of these families, Catherina SCHAEFFER outlived two husbands dying in 1898. Even though I found all of her GRISIUS children in 1887, 1890 and 1895, I did not find Catherina or her WIRTZ son. If she was not with her youngest son, she could be in any household in Hoscheid-Dickt were she lived and died.

Some Thoughts….

The research for these families is time consuming. As I worked on the GRISIUS-SCHAEFFER family I realized I miss being able to take the time to analyze all the records and search for the missing ones as I did before I began blogging.

I am proud of having found the birth records of all 9 children, death records of 7, marriage records of all who married and those who married twice, nearly all census records for the period between 1843-1900. I cannot work on a family group without looking into the parents and the grandchildren. I added about 200 source citations for this family and still have census work which needs to be finished and cited. A week is hardly enough time to do this much research. Without the routine I now have in searching Luxembourg records I doubt I would be able to do as much.

I realize by restricting my posts for the 2015 edition of 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks to my husband’s and my families in Luxembourg I am losing the interest of my readers. I am following the plan until the end of the year. Please continue to drop by and read or even skim through my posts – you never know, you might one day find you also have ancestors from Luxembourg.

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Alscheid > Naissances 1797-1830 > image 62 of 207. 1805 Birth Record No. 8 (18 Ventôse An 13). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-76521-94?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2CB:1005941488 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[2] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 845 of 1491. 1805 Birth Record (extract included with marriage record).  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-58453-76?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013), Luxembourg, Civil Registration, 1793-1923 > Luxembourg, Civil Registration, 1793-1923 >.
[3] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 15 of 296. 1852 Death Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-64957-16?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B8:n401754830 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[4] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 838 of 1491. 1833 Marriage Publication. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67893-81?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[5] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 841 of 1491. 1833 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57155-81?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[6] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 847 of 1491. 1833 document included with marriage papers. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-59095-70?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[7] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 848 of 1491. 1815 Birth Record (included with marriage record). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67167-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[8] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 698 of 727. 1898 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32039-1681-25?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2BX:1860526490 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[9] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 310 of 459. 1835 Birth Record No. 26. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-106280-25?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[10] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1827-1850 > image 52 of 162. 1835 Death Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-65037-53?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WR:129844501,129896301 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[11] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 327 of 459. 1837 Birth Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-103656-25?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[12] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 715 of 727. 1901 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32039-1756-13?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-3T5:129844501,130173601 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[13] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1156 of 1491. 1859 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-60508-3?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[14] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1805-1850 > image 347 of 459. 1839 Birth Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-101564-78?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B4:857665358 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[15] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 9 of 123. 1904 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32048-4164-20?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[16] Ibid., Wilwerwiltz > Naissances 1866-1890 Mariages 1797, 1800-1890 Décès 1797-1878 > image 797 of 1495. 1860 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12877-160577-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-7M9:130594601,130709301 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[17] Ibid., Wilwerwiltz > Naissances 1797-1850 > image 303 of 421. 1837 Birth Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11017-138476-99?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-YWG:130594601,130264201 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[18] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 159 of 296. 1871 Death Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-68304-33?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[19] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1238 of 1491. 1874 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-59490-61?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[20] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 29 of 1491. 1853 Birth Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-56798-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[21] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 12 of 123. 1905 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32048-3847-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[22] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 370 of 459. 1841 Birth Record No. 23. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-111090-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[23] Ibid., Pétange > Décès 1895-1923 > image 371 of 826. 1909 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32046-2991-99?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-T3N:130201201,129623802 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[24] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1179 of 1491. 1863 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67225-93?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[25] Ibid.
[26] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 201 of 296. 1876 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-73209-52?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[27] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1252 of 1491. 1876 Marriage Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66816-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[28] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 395 of 459. 1844 Birth Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-108810-55?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[29] Ibid., Alscheid > Décès 1850-1890 > image 190 of 274. 1877 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-10999-92906-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-N3F:129624001,129625702 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[30] Ibid., Alscheid > Mariages 1831-1890 > image 197 of 287. 1872 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-75626-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-L27:129624001,129733101 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[31] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 425 of 459. 1847 Birth Record No. 6.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-111758-55?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[32] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1798-1850 > image 454 of 459. 1850 Birth Record No. 20.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-101348-72?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-6TR:129844501,129804701 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[33] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 71 of 123. 1915 Death Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32048-3706-15?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[34] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1253 of 1491. 1876 Marriage Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63235-9?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[35] Ibid.
[36] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 89 of 123. 1918 Death Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32048-3774-1?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[37] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 20 of 1491. 1852 Birth Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-56086-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[38] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 85 of 123. 1917 Death Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32048-3911-97?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[39] Ibid., Clervaux > Mariages 1797-1800, 1797-1823, 1800-1823, 1824-1890 Décès 1800-1824 > image 1230 of 1469. 1873 Marriage Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12060-47507-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-W38:129629101,129790401 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[40] Ibid.
[41] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1133 of 1491. 1855 Marriage Record No. (none). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-64867-67?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[42] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 247 of 296. 1882 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-71116-56?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 5 September 2015).
[43] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 60 of 1491. 1856 Birth Record (not numbered). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57984-82?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[44] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1252 of 1491. 1876 Marriage Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66816-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Catherina SCHAEFFER
Parents: Nicolas SCHAEFFER and Theresia GREISCH
Spouse: FREDERICH GRISIUS* and Nicolas WIRTZ
Parents of Spouse*: Mathias GRISIUS and Magdalena SCHAETTER
Whereabouts: Hoscheid-Dickt, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 3rd great-grandmother

1. Catherina SCHAEFFER
2. Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS
3. Cathérine GRISIUS
4. Franz “Fritz” KREMER
5. Marie Françoise “Maisy” KREMER
6. Cathy Meder-Dempsey’s husband

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

52ancestors-2015This is my weekly entry for Amy Johnson Crow’s challenge:
52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.

52 Ancestors: #34 KREMER-FRIEDERICH Family – Using Substitutes to Tell Their Story

Week 34 (August 20-26) – Non-Population: While we’re on the subject of special census schedules, have you found an ancestor on a non-population census — agriculture, industry, manufactures,  or 1890 Union veterans? Tell us about him or her.

“Putting Flesh on the Bones”

If the birth, marriage, and death records are the bones of your ancestors then the Non-Population Schedules and Special Censuses are the muscles and flesh we need to cover the skeleton. They provide information about the communities in which our ancestors lived making their stories more interesting. One difference between U.S. and Luxembourgish research is the lack of these special schedules.

I would be happy to have agriculture, industry, manufacturers, mortality, and veterans schedules for my Luxembourgish ancestors. I make do with the birth, marriage, death and census records for Luxembourg as they usually include enough information to substitute for misssing records and, at the same time, give more substance to the story of the entire family.

By analyzing the records of all persons in this week’s family I made some very interesting discoveries and found stand-ins for some of the missing key records.

Visiting the Ancestral Towns

viandenWhile out on our bikes last week my husband and I rode through the German and Luxembourgish countryside. I often think of the families who lived in the towns we ride through. We passed through Vianden (above), the canton where the KREMER family lived before coming to Bettendorf, and rode into Dillingen (below), where the FRIEDERICH family lived, crossing over this old cobblestone bridge.

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Nicolas KREMER 1797-1867

My husband’s 3rd great-grandfather Nicolas KREMER was born in Hosingen, Clervaux, Luxembourg, on the 11 Ventôse Year 5 of the French Republic. Ventôse is the “windy” third month of winter and the date converts to 1 March 1797. The date and place were found on his 1830 marriage record.[1] Other dates were seen on the census: 29 December 1800 (1846)[2] and the year 1795 without a day or month (1849)[3].

I searched the Hosingen birth records and found the years 1794-1797 were missing. To further complicate matters the 1843 census[4] shows his place of birth as Stolzembourg and the 1846[2] and 1847[5] census list Wahlhausen, part of the commune of Hosingen. I checked Putscheid as Stolzembourg belongs to this commune and, once again, I found records were missing from 1794-1816. I’ve nearly given up on finding the birth record.

Nicolas’ marriage record[1] is the substitute I use for his date of birth as well as the names of his parents. He was the son of Wilhelm “Guillaume” KREMER and Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY. The marriage record gives his father Wilhelm’s date of death as 28 January 1814 in Weiler, part of the commune of Putscheid. A death record was not found as this year is missing. I checked the Tables Décennales (the 10 year lists of births, marriages, and deaths) for Putscheid and Vianden and did not find him in the 1813-1822 lists. Can I trust the date and place given in the marriage record?

Nicolas had two sisters, Eva and Marie, and two brothers, Paul and Jacques. Marie never married. What did I find on the marriage records of Eva and her brothers? Wilhelm died 28  January 1814 in Weiler. Four marriage records with his date of death. Are these substitutes enough for his death record?

  • Sib 1: Eva (1793-1867) born 10 Sep 1793 Putscheid (Vianden).[6] She married Nicolas DIFFERDING (1792-1869) on 15 October 1822 in Landscheid (Vianden).[7] Eva died 3 July 1867 in Gralingen (Putscheid).[8]
  • Sib 3: Marie (1801-1840) born about 1801 Walhausen. She died 12 May 1840 in Bettendorf.[9]
  • Sib 4: Paul (1808-1859) born 30 May 1808 Weiler (Putscheid).[10] He died 9 March 1859, both in  Bettendorf.[11]
  • Sib 5: Jacques (1813-1848) born 9 November 1813 Weiler (Putscheid).[12] He died 23 July 1848 in Bettendorf.[13]

As with Nicolas, I had to rely on the marriage records of Paul[10] and Jacques[12] as a substitute for their birth records. Eva’s baptismal record was located in the collection of church records and confirms her parents were Wilhelm KREMER and Magdalena WINANDY.[6] Next on my research list is to locate the marriage record of Wilhelm and Magdalena.

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Eva’s baptismal record confirms her parents were Wilhelm KREMER and Magdalena WINANDY [6]

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH 1802-1871

My husband’s 3rd great-grandmother Elisabeth FRIEDERICH (1802-1871) was born 14 April 1802, per the 1846 census[2], or 15 April 1803, per 1849 census[3], in Dillingen, Luxembourg. Can these conflicting records be used as substitutes for her birth record? Per her 1830 marriage record[1] her parents were Mathieu “Mathias” FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS (1771-1812) and Maria OLSEM (1763-1828). Elisabeth had a brother who was stillborn in 1794 and a sister born in 1796. Rob Deltgen, who has access to more than the Luxembourg church and civil records, includes the full dates in his database. I was not able to locate the records in Beaufort, the commune Dillingen belongs to. Mathias[14] and Maria’s[15] death records were found in Beaufort.

While looking at the map of our ride, I remembered I had found information on the FRIEDERICH family (also seen as TIVELS and THIVELS) coming from Wallendorf in Germany. Across the river from Wallendorf is the Luxembourgish village of Wallendorf-Pont which lies only 4 km from Dillingen. On an off chance Wallendorf-Pont may have kept church records I browsed the database at FamilySearch and located the 1791 marriage record of Elisabeth’s parents.[16] This wonderful find made up for the lack of records for their children’s births.

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The index card which led to the religious marriage record of Mathias Friederich and Maria Olsem [16]
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1791 Religious marriage record [16a]

KREMER Marriages Solve Dilemma

What do you do when you find an error in someone else’s database? What if you are not sure it’s a mistake?

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1830 Marriage Record No. 10 (top portion) [1]
Nicolas KREMER (seen here as KREMESCH) married Elisabeth FRIEDERICH on 17 February 1830 in Bettendorf. This is the famous marriage record (above, top half) which contains the information missing due to lack of documents concerning births and deaths. Elisabeth’s parents were both deceased and their dates of death were included. If these were known why was the age and date of birth of the bride not included?

Nicolas’ father was deceased and his mother was present and consenting to the marriage. Her residence was “Eisback” or “Eisbach,” neither a place in Luxembourg. I wonder if the person who wrote up the record meant “Eisleck” which is the northern region of Luxembourg and covers a third of the country. Years ago when I obtained the marriage record from the civil hall in Bettendorf I thought it might even be the name of a German town. Today I believe it should be Eisenbach (Eesbech) which lies north of Wahlhausen, Weiler, Putscheid, and Stolzembourg.

A little over a month later Nicolas’ brother Paul married Marie DIEDERICH (1811-1847) on 27 March 1830 in Bettendorf.[10] Again the mother of the groom Magdalena WINANDY a resident of Merscheid was present for the marriage. Christian DIEDERICH and his wife, the parents of the bride, were also present and consented to the marriage.

Five years later the third KREMER son was married in Bettendorf. Jacques KREMER married Cathérine KORB (1813-1895) on 27 February 1835.[12] Both of Jacques’ parents were noted as deceased. Wilhelm died on 21 January 1814 as opposed to the 28th seen on Eva, Nicolas, and Paul’s marriage records. Magdalena died on 31 March 1814 in Weiler. As seen in the marriages records of Nicolas and Paul, this is a mistake.

Marie KREMER, the daughter who never married, died on 12 May 1840 in Bettendorf in the house of Christian DIEDERICH, her brother Paul’s father-in-law.[9]

After studying the marriage records and finding Magdalena WINANDY living in 1830 and present at two of her sons’ marriage, I had to find her death record. First stop, the reliable online database maintained by Rob Deltgen. Unfortunately, he had the 1814 date found in Jacques’ marriage record. I was back to searching the towns seen as her residence when her children married.

Since my success rate for the records in the Putscheid was near zero I was not surprised I was unable to find the death record there. As several of the families in this branch of my husband’s tree lived in the Bettendorf area, I took a chance and searched for her death in the Tables Décennales of Bettendorf. I found a lady of the same name but the death record showed she was born in Bettendorf and 73 years old at the time of death. At first, I did not believe I had the right person even though Wilhelm KREMER was the name of her deceased husband. She would have been 56 in 1813 and too old when her son Jacques was born. But once I realized she died in the home of her son Paul’s father-in-law and only a few days after the marriage I was sure there must be an error in her age at death.

Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY died at the home of Christian DIEDERICH in Bettendorf on 31 March 1830, four days after the wedding.[17] Did she plan to stay a while after the marriage or was she not well enough to go home?

I’ve contacted Rob with the correction and will continue to search for the other missing records.

Nicolas and Elisabeth’s Family

Three months after the marriage of Nicolas and Elisabeth, twins boys, Jean[18] and Paul[19], were born on 18 May 1830 in Bettendorf. On 6 June at 11 o’clock in the morning, Paul died[20] and was followed by his older twin Jean at 3 o’clock in the afternoon.[21] The death of the second twin must have been expected as Nicolas waited to report the deaths at the same time, an hour after the second death.

Following the births and deaths of the twins more children were born:

  • Jacques was born on 5 August 1831[22]
  • Anna Maria on 2 March 1833[23]
  • Johann on 5 October 1834[24]
  • Anton on 5 June 1836[25]
  • Peter on 25 February 1839[26]

Peter was born at 5 o’clock in the morning. Six hours later his brother Johann died at age 5 years.[27] From 1843 to 1851 Peter was seen as Jean on the census. In 1858 and 1871 he was seen as Pierre. Was he known as Jean during his childhood in remembrance of his brother Johann who died the day he was born?

Another set of twins was born on 2 October 1841.The boy was given the name Paul[28] , a name used with the first set of twins, and the girl was named Marie.[29] Paul, like his namesake, died young, only a month old, on 4 November 1841.[30]

Following the twins’ births, Catherine was born on 1 March 1844.[31] She died on 15 February 1847, two weeks before her 3rd birthday.[32]

Marie, Paul’s twin, died on 20 March 1850.[33] By this time Elizabeth had given birth to 10 children and 6 of these were now deceased. Jacques, Anna Maria (known as Marie), Anton and Pierre were the four remaining children.

Jacques married Elisabeth PROMMENSCHENKEL (1832-1892) on 10 May 1854 in Waldbillig.[34] They lived for a short time in Christnach, a town in the commune of Waldbillig, where they had two daughters in 1854[35] and 1858.[36] The little family may have gone to Paris following the birth of the second daughter.

In 1858 Nicolas KREMER and his wife Elizabeth FRIEDERICH had only 19 years old Pierre living at home.[37] An annotation to the census indicates one of his sons was working in Paris and his daughter was “en condition” in Luxembourg City. As Jacques was married he would no longer be mentioned on his father’s census listing. This could mean my husband’s 2nd great-grandfather Anton KREMER may have been the son who was in Paris.

If it was Anton who was working in Paris in December 1858 he did not stay for long. Anton was in Bettendorf on 1 September 1859 when he married my husband’s 2nd great-grandmother Anna Maria MERKES (1835-1920).[38]

Anna Maria “Marie”  KREMER was last seen with her parents on the 1861 census[39] and was single. Her brother Jacques was last heard of when he reported the death of his second daughter on 18 November 1865 in the 19e arrondissement, Paris, Île-de-France, France.[40] On 2 November 1892, his wife Elisabeth PROMMENSCHENKEL died at the same address. Her husband Jacques was listed as deceased.[41] These death records, found online in the Paris archives, help estimate his death at between 1865-1892.

Nicolas KREMER died 8 February 1867 Bettendorf.[42] Nicolas, who had worked as a day laborer (Journalier or Taglöhner) his entire adult life, left his wife Elisabeth and sons Anton and Pierre. Were Marie and Jacques still living? Further research may uncover their whereabouts or death records.

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH died 28 October 1871 in Bettendorf. Her son Anton was the informant.[43] Later in the year her son Pierre was listed on the back page of Anton’s census record[44] as being in service (in dienst) but without a location. He was most likely still single. If he had been married at the time he would have been listed in his own household. No further record was found for Peter/Pierre and I estimate his death at after December 1871.

Anton KREMER, the last living child of Nicolas KREMER and Elisabeth FRIEDERICH, died 28 April 1918 in Bettendorf at the age of 81.[45]

Make Do With What You Find

I hope you’ve enjoyed the photographs taken for this week’s post as well my twist on the theme. No special census records for this family. And even though I’m missing key documents for the KREMER and FRIEDERICH families the list of sources used is still quite long. I thought this would be such an easy post but while writing and reviewing the documents I noticed facts I’d missed and had to do more than the usual amount of re-writing.

 

 

 

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 220 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39950-62?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[2] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > 1846 > image 27 of 334. 1846 Kremer-Friederich household.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32356-27262-77?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-BZ9:346114101,345858602 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[3] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[4] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1843 > image 190 of 288. 1843 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32360-26913-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-T3L:346114101,345863501 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[5] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[6] Luxembourg Civil Records, Putscheid > Naissances 1779-1831 > image 141 of 299. 1793 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11541-110845-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-4WL:130227001,130321101 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[7] Ibid., Bastendorf > Mariages 1800-1823 > image 184 of 196. 1822 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-249592-40?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2CG:n1464610767 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[8] Ibid., Putscheid > Décès 1859-1890 > image 108 of 381. 1867 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11564-48433-11?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-L84:n1201975605 : accessed 01 Mar 2013).
[9] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1235 of 1494. 1840 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39485-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[10] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 212 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-40782-87?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1478 of 1494. 1859 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41053-41?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 21 March 2010).
[12] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1843 > image 273 of 288. Koorb-Nilles and Kremer-Koorb household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32360-28353-62?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-T3L:346114101,345863501 : accessed 16 August 2015).
[13] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1346 of 1494. 1848 Death Record No. 40. ((https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41065-23?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[14] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 440 of 1474. 1812 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-147496-32?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015).
[15] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 676 of 1474. 1828 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-141484-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015) Note: May be an error on record as she was listed as age 73 therefore b. 1755.
[16] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), 1. Wallendorf-Pont > Tables des mariages 1746-1802 (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 133 of 212. 1791 Marriage Card. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32462-18064-80?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K68:1501154317,1501173938 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[16a] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 88 of 438. 1791 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32461-5216-23?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F:1501154317,1501199302 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[17] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1095 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38474-75?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 14 Apr 2013).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 55 of 1507. 1830 Birth Record No. 32. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-590-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[19] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 55 of 1507. 1830 Birth Record No. 33. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-590-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[20] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1097 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-36361-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[21] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1097 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-36361-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[22] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 77 of 1507. 1832 Birth Record No. 37. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5590-72?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[23] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 108 of 1507. 1833 Birth Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-6097-76?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[24] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 139 of 1507. 1834 Birth Record No. 49. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-4896-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[25] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 176 of 1507. 1836 Birth Record No. 45. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5516-98?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28S:1346120346 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[26] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 231 of 1507. 1839 Birth Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-1700-0?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[27] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1214 of 1494. 1839 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38221-4?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[28] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 287 of 1507. 1841 Birth Record No. 63. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-294-34?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[29] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 287 of 1507. 1841 Birth Record No. 64. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-294-34?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[30] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1250 of 1494. 1841 Death Record No. 34. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39923-67?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[31] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 340 of 1507. 1844 Birth Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5801-96?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[32] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1325 of 1494. 1847 Death Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38041-6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[33] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1363 of 1494. 1850 Death Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38184-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[34] Ibid., Waldbillig > Naissances 1871-1890 Mariages 1796-1798, 1800-1803, 1805-1890 Décès 1796-1803, 1805-1838 > image 875 of 1486. 1854 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11574-91736-65?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-N38:130535001,130636701 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[35] Ibid., Waldbillig > Pièces de mariage 1779-1803 Tables décennales 1803-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1793 Naissances, mariages 1795-1796 Naissances 1796-1803 Naissances, mariages, décès 1803-1805 Naissances 1805-1870 > image 1198 of 1415. 1854 Birth Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12455-83981-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-W38:130535001,950245901 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[36] Ibid., Waldbillig > Pièces de mariage 1779-1803 Tables décennales 1803-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1793 Naissances, mariages 1795-1796 Naissances 1796-1803 Naissances, mariages, décès 1803-1805 Naissances 1805-1870 > image 1248 of 1415. 1858 Birth Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12455-89144-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-W38:130535001,950245901 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[37] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1858 > image 7 of 365. 1858 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32359-8277-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-2JF:346114101,345867601 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[38] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 516 of 1494. 1859 Marriage Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-37146-86?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[39] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1861 > image 347 of 367. Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32377-4422-87?cc=2037957&wc=M5GM-MNL:346114101,345867101 : accessed 17 February 2015).
[40] Archives de Paris, http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr, V4E 2310, Décès 19e arr., 18/11/1865. Images from this site are not allowed to be shared with others, used on the internet, or for commercial purposes without permission. 1865 Death Record No. 2429. (online : accessed 17 August 2015).
[41] Archives de Paris, http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr, V4E 2310, Décès 19e arr., 03/11/1892. Images from this site are not allowed to be shared with others, used on the internet, or for commercial purposes without permission. 1892 Death Record No. 2485. (online: accessed 17 August 2015).
[42] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Décès 1860-1890 > image 118 of 465. 1867 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11711-67192-17?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZR:n1595569028 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[43] Ibid., Bettendorf > Décès 1860-1890 > image 189 of 465. 1871 Death Record No. 84. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11711-60058-48?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-82S:129626601,129626602 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[44] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1871 > image 269 of 823. Kremer-Merkes household No. 20. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32382-11432-63?cc=2037957&wc=M5L1-J46:346114101,345869501 : accessed 12 February 2015). See also images 268 and 270.
[45] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Décès 1895-1923 > image 329 of 389. 1918 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32048-24192-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-926:129626601,129623802 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Nicolas KREMER
Parents: Wilhelm “Guillaume” KREMER and Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY
Spouse: Elisabeth FRIEDERICH
Parents of spouse: Mathias FRIEDERICH dite TIVELS and Maria OLSEM
Whereabouts: Hosingen, Weiler, Putscheid, Stolzembourg, Dillengen, Bettendorf
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 3rd great-grandfather

1. Nicolas KREMER
2. Anton KREMER
3. Nicolas KREMER
4. Franz “Fritz” KREMER
5. Marie Françoise “Maisy” KREMER
6. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

52ancestors-2015This is my weekly entry for Amy Johnson Crow’s challenge:
52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.

52 Ancestors: #19 The Heinrich GRISIUS Family of Hoscheid-Dickt

Week 19 (May 7-13) – There’s a Way: What ancestor found a way out of a sticky situation? You might also think of this in terms of transportation or migration.

Instead of an ancestor, I was the one who had to find a way out of a sticky situation. I think everyone has a family similar to the one I researched (again) this week. A family you keep coming back to but push away until later because of the amount of work required or not knowing where to look. There’s a way I usually do my research and there’s a way to take a short cut. I had to use both approaches before I could begin to write about this family.

I spent hours searching the census and civil records of Luxembourg for my husband’s great-great-grandfather Heinrich GRISIUS, his two wives, and thirteen children. This is my usual way of doing Luxembourg research as none of the records are indexed. You won’t find shaky leaves on Ancestry for records in Luxembourg. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t other sites that are helpful.

Rob Deltgen, who is well known to anyone researching families in Luxembourg, shares his work online. Rob’s site is the oldest and most visited genealogy site in Luxembourg and the short cut I used. [Access to the site is free but you need to register and login with a password.]

I went through the children and grandchildren of the GRISIUS family checking the dates and places Rob had with the online records at FamilySearch. Since Rob does not cite his sources online this is a good exercise in searching for records in browse only collections and comparing the information.

The reason I included grandchildren in this project was due to the time period. The GRISIUS chidren lived longer than the records are available on FamilySearch – 1922. The National Library of Luxembourg has the newspapers online. Obituaries may contain names of children but not always names of siblings. The grandchildren’s names make the search easier. But not all families published obituaries in the newspapers.

The GRISIUS-MANGERS and the GRISIUS-WECKERING Families

Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS was born 25 June 1839 in Hoscheid-Dickt, Commune of Hoscheid, Canton of Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. His parents were Frederique “Friedrich” GRISIUS (1805-1852) and Catherina SCHAEFFER (1815-1898). They named him Heinrich per his birth record.[1]

Heinrich married his first wife Marie MANGERS on 8 November 1860 in Wilwerwiltz in the canton of Wiltz.[2] Marie gave birth to four children:

  • Ch 1: Michel GRISIUS (1861-aft. 1900) born 19 September 1861 in Hoscheid-Dickt[3]
  • Ch 2: Anna Marie GRISIUS (1864-1921) born 3 March 1864 in Hoscheid-Dickt[4]
  • Ch 3: Cathérine GRISIUS (1866-1927) born 16 Jun 1866 in Hoscheid-Dickt[5]
  • Ch 4: Elisabeth GRISIUS (1870-1871) born 10 June 1870 in Hoscheid-Dickt[6]

Heinrich’s first wife Marie died on 2 January 1871.[7] Six days later the baby Elisabeth GRISIUS died on 8 January 1871.[8] Both deaths took place in Hoscheid-Dickt.

In December 1871 Heinrich, a widower, was seen on the census with his three young children: Michel 10, Anna Marie 7, and Cathérine 5. He did not have anyone in the household to help with the children.[9]

Heinrich waited a few more years before marrying again.  On 29 October 1874 he married Elisabeth WECKERING (1853-1905) in Hoscheid.[10]

Elisabeth was born 9 May 1853 in Hoscheid to Antoin WECKERING and Margaretha BERNARD. Her father was 72 years old and her mother 36 years old.[11] Her parents had been married 10 years and had buried 5 children during that time. Elisabeth was the only child of this couple to reach adulthood.

Elisabeth and Heinrich had nine children in 18 years:

  • Ch 5: Marguerite GRISIUS (1875-1913) born 28 August 1875 in Hoscheid-Dickt[12]
  • Ch 6: Nicolas GRISIUS (1877-1939) born 14 August 1877 in Hoscheid[13]
  • Ch 7: Cathérine GRISIUS (1879-1918) born 7 September 1879 in Hoscheid-Dickt[14]
  • Ch 8: Cathérine GRISIUS (1881-1938) born 25 December 1881 in Hoscheid-Dickt[15]
  • Ch 9: Mathieu GRISIUS (1883-aft 1912) born 5 December 1883 in Schlinder-Haut[16]
  • Ch 10: François GRISIUS (1885-1946) born 22 December 1885 in Hoscheid-Dickt[17]
  • Ch 11: Martin GRISIUS (1888-aft. 1900) born 15 August 1888 in Hoscheid-Dickt[18]
  • Ch 12: Léonard GRISIUS (1891-aft. 1923) born 2 March 1891 in Hoscheid-Dickt[19]
  • Ch 13: Nicolas GRISIUS (1893-aft.1934) born 22 September 1893 in Hoscheid-Dickt[20]

While Elisabeth was pregnant with her 6th child (Heinrich’s 10th) her stepdaughter Anna Marie was also pregnant and had to get married. Anna Marie married Michel BURGEN on 18 May 1885 in Hoscheid[21] and the first grandchild Anne BURGEN (1885-1937) was born on 10 July 1885.[22] Three more children were born to this couple and each time the child’s surname was spelled differently: Angelica Bürgen 1891, Georg “Joseph” Burghen 1899, and Susanna Birchen 1904.

Heinrich’s second daughter Cathérine GRISIUS married Albert MEYER (1863-1928) on 1 March 1889 in Bastendorf.[23] Their first child Marie was born on 31 December 1889 in Weidingen les Wiltz.[24] She was followed by (another) Marie 1893, Anne 1897, Elisabeth 1901, Michel 1904, Nicolas 1906 and Catharina 1908.

Heinrich and Elisabeth’s oldest daughter Marguerite married Dominique DONNER on 25 February 1895[25] in Hoscheid three weeks after giving birth to a son they named Henri after her father.[26]

Heinrich’s oldest child Michel GRISIUS married Elisabeth JAEGER on 31 January 1898 in Wiltz.[27] He was 36 and she was 47. It is not known if the couple remained in Wiltz were they were seen in the 1900 census. No children were found in that community and it is not very likely that his wife had a child at her late age.

To make things a bit more difficult Heinrich named three of his daughters Cathérine. On census listings they were all seen with the same first name.

1885census
1 December 1885 Census[28]
1887census
1 February 1887 Census[29]
Because of this naming pattern in the family it is important to read the marriage records closely to see which of the three daughters named Cathérine married which men. Marriage records include the dates and places of birth of the bride and groom making it easier to keep the girls apart.

The first daughter named Cathérine b. 1866 married in 1889 as seen above. The two others married in 1900 and 1902:

  • Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1879) married Nicolas KREMER (1875-1951) on 28 November 1900 in Bettendorf.[30] They were my husband’s great-grandparents.
  • Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1881) married Edouard DAUBACH (1880-1948) on 26 December 1902 in Hoscheid.[31]

Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS died on 14 October 1904 in Hoscheid-Dickt[32] and was followed by his wife Elisabeth “Elise” WECKERING four months later on 14 February 1905 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[33]

When Heinrich and Elisabeth died their six sons were not yet married. Marriages were found for all of them except Martin.

  • Nicolas GRISIUS married Susanne JACOBY on 6 January 1909 in Heiderscheid[34]
  • Mathieu GRISIUS married Susanne Cathérine SCHNEIDER 20 July 1909 in Boulaide[35]
  • François GRISIUS married Marie Sophie WIEGAND on 7 February 1911 in Diekirch[36]
  • Léonard GRISIUS married  Madeleine Susanne LEINENWEBER on 11 April 1913 in Wiltz[37]
  • Nicolas Grisius married Mathilde REUTER on 4 July 1920 in Bissen[38]

Before the last son married the two oldest daughters of Heinrich and Elisabeth died. Marguerite on 8 June 1913 in Luxemburg City[39] and Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1879) in childbirth on 19 April 1918 in Moestroff.[40]

It is not known when Heinrich’s oldest daughter Anna Marie GRISIUS died. She was last seen alive in November 1921 when her youngest child married.[41]

Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1866) died 3 October 1927 in Weidingen.[42]

Nicolas GRISIUS, the youngest child of this family, became a father on 28 February 1934.[43] It is not known how long he lived.

Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1881) died before 31 May 1938, the date her son Marcel died. His obituary lists only his father and siblings.[44]

Nicolas GRISIUS died 26 March 1939 in Weidingen.[45]

François GRISIUS died 16 November 1946 in Bettendorf.[46]

The research on this family was time-consuming but it was a good feeling to be able to work on a family with thirteen children and find that only one died at a very young age. Eleven of the twelve children married and had children giving Heinrich and Elisabeth 55 grandchildren.

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Hoscheid > Décès 1805-1850 > image 347 of 459. 1839 Birth Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-101564-78?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B4:857665358 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[2] Ibid, Wilwerwiltz > Naissances 1866-1890 Mariages 1797, 1800-1890 Décès 1797-1878 > image 797 of 1495. 1860 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12877-160577-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-7M9:130594601,130709301 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[3] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 107 of 1491. 1861 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-61502-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[4] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 134 of 1491. 1864 Birth Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67185-68?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[5] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 154 of 1491. 1866 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57908-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[6] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 197 of 1491. 1870 Birth Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-64621-87?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[7] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 159 of 296. 1871 Death Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-68304-33?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[8] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 160 of 296. 1871 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-68366-15?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 7 May 2015).
[9] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Hoscheid > 1871 > image 41 of 350. Heinrich Grisius household no. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32381-14477-68?cc=2037957&wc=M5G9-T3Y:345858701,345869501 : accessed 7 May 2015). Note: see also images 40 and 42 for front and back matter.
[10] Civil records, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1238 of 1491. 1874 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-59490-61?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 29 of 1491. 1853 Birth Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-56798-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[12] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[13] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[14] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[15] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[16] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[17] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 337 of 1491. 1885 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-58779-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[18] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 361 of 1491. 1888 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66072-80?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[19] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 361 of 1491. 1888 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66072-80?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[20] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances, mariages, décès 1891-1894 > image 20 of 77. 1893 Birth Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11555-122015-89?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-N38:129844501,129717601 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[21] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1298 of 1491. 1885 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63143-2?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[22] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 334 of 1491. 1885 Birth Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66463-79?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[23] Ibid, Bastendorf > Mariages 1872-1890 > image 139 of 148. 1889 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-253277-35?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-DP8:129624201,129707601 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[24] Ibid, Wiltz > Naissances 1851-1890 > image 1463 of 1497. 1889 Birth Record No. 83.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12872-175490-50?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-BZ9:130592301,129857101 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[25] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 151 of 727. 1895 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32039-1287-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-3T5:129844501,130173601 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[26] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1895-1902 > image 2 of 59. 1895 Birth Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32047-20559-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-16V:129844501,129766201 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[27] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 4 of 657. 1898 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32066-24778-38?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 8 May 2015).
[28] Census records, Hoscheid > 1885 > image 277 of 569. Grisius-Weckering household no. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32390-4185-22?cc=2037957&wc=M5GW-JWY:345858701,345873701 : accessed 6 May 2015). Note: see also images 276 and 278 for front and back matter.
[29] Ibid, Hoscheid > 1887 > image 256 of 336. Grisius-Weckering household no. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32393-3866-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5G8-2NB:345858701,345875201 : accessed 6 May 2015). Note: see also images 255 and 257 for front and back matter.
[30] Civil records, Bettendorf > Naissances 1896-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 > image 530 of 777. 1900 Marriage Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32044-7034-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28W:n1332603780 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[31] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 193 of 727. 1902 Marriage Record No. 5.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32039-1200-44?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-3T5:129844501,130173601 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[32] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 9 of 123. 1904 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32048-4164-20?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[33] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 12 of 123. 1905 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32048-3847-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[34] Ibid, Heiderscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Décès 1895-1912 > image 384 of 713. 1909 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32042-2920-54?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-6TT:129701001,130456301 : accessed 8 May 2015).
[35] Ibid, Boulaide > Mariages 1895-1923 > image 94 of 174. 1909 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32045-1627-70?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-L2H:129622701,129649201 : accessed 11 May 2015).
[36] Ibid, Diekirch > Mariages 1895-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 256 of 661. 1911 Marriage Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32038-645-83?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-92Q:129628901,130043302 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[37] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 286 of 657. 1913 Marriage Record No. 7.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32066-25007-56?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[38] Ibid, Bissen > Naissances, mariages, décès 1895-1923 > image 507 of 789. 1920 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32024-7650-21?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-FMC:129623501,129971001 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[39] Ibid, Luxembourg > Décès 1911-1916 > image 324 of 820. 1913 Death Record No. 220. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32019-18141-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-HZ3:130045801,131216501 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[40] Ibid, Bettendorf > Naissances 1896-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 > image 530 of 777. 1900 Marriage Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32044-7034-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28W:n1332603780 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[41] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 429 of 657. 1920 Marriage Record No. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32066-24712-78?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 12 May 2015).
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Genealogy Sketch

Name: Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS
Parents: Frederique “Friedrich” GRISIUS and Catharina SCHAEFFER
Spouse: Marie MANGERS and Elisabeth WECKERING(*)
Parents of spouse(*): Antoin WECKERING and Marguerite BERNARD
Whereabouts: Hoscheid-Dickt, Hoscheid, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 2nd great-grandparents

1. Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS and Elisabeth WECKERING
2. Cathérine GRISIUS
3. Franz KREMER
4. Maisy KREMER
5. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

52ancestors-2015This is my weekly entry for Amy Johnson Crow’s challenge:
52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.