One of the first lines I worked on when I began researching on the internet was my grandmother Myrtle Hazel ROOP‘s line. Over the years I learned there were several researchers who worked on the ROOP and collateral lines. I am so grateful to them for sharing their work.
Before I go on with the actual reason for this post I’d like to mention three of these researchers.
Linda Pearl Dickey Roop (1943-1994) collaborated with Everette Llavon McGREW (1923-2008) on a book on the ROOP family. The summer of 1994 she was diagnosed with cancer and died a month later. Everette took over the task of finishing the book which he titled My Mother Was A Rupe. He gave me an updated copy in 2002.
During his research trips back to Virginia he met Louise Roop Anderson Akers (1933-2015) and they shared information. Louise and Everette did all their research the old way. They visited court houses, cemeteries, families, etc. collecting information, photos, and documents. Louise also put together her information in a book, The Family Rub, Rup, Rupe, Roop, Roope. I bought a copy of the book and later she gifted me a hardcover copy for Christmas 2001.
I began entering information from both of the books into my database. Both are compilations of dates and places of birth, marriage, deaths, residences. Neither have source citations but the second part of Louise’s book includes many photocopies of records she found. Unfortunately they are not linked in any way to the family groups in the front of the book.
As I entered the information I was able to confirm family relationships with census records. However I found dates and places I questioned and have wanted to find the answer to these for a long time.
One of these was the date of death of Nora M. ROOP and her husband Sherman LUCAS. Louise had the same date, 27 May 1941, for both Nora and Sherman while Everette had 27 May 1941 for Sherman and no date for Nora.
In my notes for Nora, above, I questioned the date of death being the same day as that of her husband (below).
In my January 1st post, In 2016 I’m Going To…., I wrote about the four Virginia Vital Records databases at Ancestry I plan on working with since I signed up for my 6-month subscription during the holidays.
Nora’s certificate of death was one of the first I searched for in the Virginia, Death Records, 1912-2014 database at Ancestry.
The certificate of death for Nora May LUCAS confirms she died on 27 May 1941 as Louise wrote in her book. The next look up would be the certificate of death of her husband.
Sherman Paris LUCAS died on 20 February 1945, not the same day as his wife.
I was right to question the dates of death. It doesn’t matter how the error was made or who made it. This isn’t about pointing fingers. The important thing is I searched and found the records to correct the error.
As I work through the ROOP descendants I’ll be attaching the records and citing the sources to prove the dates found by earlier researchers. More importantly, if errors were made I’ll correct them and plan to write short posts about the corrections.
I have no plans of contacting owners of Ancestry Member Trees about corrections as this would be too time consuming.
Week 46 (November 12-18) – Changes. Highlight an ancestor that went through many changes or that you had to change your research strategies to find.
After writing about the German half of my maternal third great-grandparents I am now changing over to the Luxembourgish half which was much easier to research. In this post I left a note about how I had to change research strategies and why I did not make changes to the numbering of the footnotes.
For this week’s set of third great-grandparents I would like to begin with the wife as her family history includes a strange twist and the numbering problem.
Marie Catherine PHILIPPART
My third great-grandmother Marie Catherine PHILIPPART was born on the 19th day of the month of Brumaire in the year 10 of the French Republic, that is to say, on 8 November 1801, in Rodange, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, to Catherine MEUNIER (1775-1851) and Michel PHILIPPART (1777-1849). Both of her parents were born in Rodange. They were the parents of 8 children:
Child 2: Marie Catherine (1801-1843) born 8 November 1801.
Child 3: Henri (1802-1813) born 1 Dec 1802 and died 9 Aug 1813.§
Child 4: Anne “Nanete” (1804-1871) born 17 Dec 1804.
Child 5: Jean Pierre (1808- ) born 25 Oct 1808 Possibly § ?
Child 6: Jean Baptiste (1810-1810) born 29 Jan 1810 and died 2 Mar 1810.§
Child 7: Catherine (1812-1817) born 17 Apr 1812[9a] and 20 November 1814.[9b]§
Child 8: Michel (1814-1814) born 2 June 1814[11a] and died 15 July 1814.[11b]§ § – end of line.
The parents of these children apparently were not legally married as Michel PHILIPPART age 40 and Catherine MEUNIER age 43 were joined in a ceremony on 30 July 1817 in Pétange. Marguerite, Catherine, Anne, and Jean Pierre, their four living children, were mentioned in the marriage record. The marriage took place at 10 o’clock in the morning. The couple must have been there early as Michel witnessed the marriages which took place at 9 and 11 o’clock. The three bridal couples who were married that day were about the same age and had annotations concerning their children. Is it possible they needed legal proof of marriage and the records were missing for the time period they actually married?
Marguerite, Catherine, Anne, and Jean Pierre were the children listed on the marriage record. My ancestress was Marie Catherine who definitely was living in 1817. This led me to believe the daughter Catherine born in 1812 must have died before 1817. I couldn’t find a death record for her and wondered if an error had been made. Then I realized another child’s surname was spelled Flippart instead of Philippart on a death record in 1814. A change in research strategy: I went back to the Tables décennales and found three Flippart children who died in 1814, including young Catherine. Sources had already been numbered and cited when I found the 1814 records. Since I manually add the html codes for the numbering of the citations in my posts I decided to use 9a, 9b, 11a, and 11b instead of changing all of them up to 83. Am I forgiven?
Five years after their marriage the first of Michel and Catherine’s children was getting married. My third great-grandparents, Marie Catherine PHILIPPART and André FOURNELLE, married on 23 April 1823 in Pétange, Canton of Messancy, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
Marie Catherine’s sisters married in Pétange in 1826 and 1828 to their first cousins once removed, brothers whose common ancestors with the sisters, their wives, were Jacques PHILIPPART and Elisabeth BURKEL. Anne “Nanete” PHILIPPART married Jean Baptiste PHILIPPART (1798-1828) on 20 September 1826. Marguerite PHILIPPART married Joseph PHILIPPART (1800-1864) on 12 September 1828.
Nanete’s marriage ended in 1828 when her husband died. She never remarried but in 1832 she had a daughter out of wedlock. She and her two children lived with her parents until their deaths.
Jean Pierre PHILIPPART, the only living brother of the three girls, was mentioned when his parents were legally married in 1817. Nothing is known of him after this date. No marriage was found for him in Pétange nor were any census records or a death record found.
Marie Catherine PHILIPPART died 20 July 1843 in Rodange. Both of her parents outlived her. Her father Michel PHILIPPART died 23 Sep 1849, her sister Marguerite Philippart died 31 Dec 1849, and her mother Catherine MEUNIER died 24 May 1851, all in Rodange. Marguerite’s husband/widower Joseph PHILIPPART, who remarried in April 1851, was the informant at the time of the death of his parents-in-law. On both records he was erroneously named as their son instead of son-in-law.
Following these deaths and as no information was found on Jean Pierre, his sister Nanete was the last known living child. She lived to be 66 years old, dying on 24 January 1871 in Rodange.
My third great-grandfather André FOURNELLE (1799-1866) was born on the fourth of the month of Fructidor in the 7th year of the French Republic or the 21 August 1799 in Rodange. He was the youngest child of Pierre FOURNELLE (1748-1816) and Marianne SCHMIT (1763-1824) who married on 1 April 1783 in Rodange where they were born and raised. They were the parents of at least 10 children. A gap in the births of the original 7 children had made me wonder if I was missing some children. After browsing one batch of church records I found I had missed their first born son, a child born less than a month after their marriage and their 6th and 7th child. The years between births for the children now look as they should but there is another batch of church records I have not gone through. They appear to be duplicates made by the priest at the time and may contain information left out or illegible in the first record found.
Child 1: Michael (1783-1784) born 27 April 1783 and died 30 August 1784 in Rodange
Child 2: Jean Baptiste (1784-1864) born 13 November 1784 in Rodange
Child 3: Susanne (1786-1845) born 14 March 1786 in Rodange
Child 4: Pierre (1787-1856) born 5 May 1787 in Rodange
Child 5: Henri (1788-1861) born 12 Nov 1788 in Rodange
Child 6: Jean Baptiste (1791-?) born 8 Nov 1791 in Rodange
Child 7: Marie (1793-1860) born 2 Jan 1793 in Rodange
Child 8: Philippe (1795-1840) born 8 Nov 1795 in Rodange
Child 9: Jacques (1797-1870) born 26 Sep 1797 in Rodange
Child 10: André (1799-1866) born 21 August 1799 in Rodange
Timeline of events in André’s life from the time of his birth to his marriage
27 Dec 1804: His sister Susanne married Jean Pierre LUCAS (1773-1852) in Pétange.
18 Aug 1812: His brother Pierre married Appoline WESTER (1781-1827) in Pétange.
17 Oct 1816: His mother Marianne SCHMIT was the informant for the death of his father Pierre FOURNELLE.
22 Feb 1819: His brother Henri married Anna Catherine FEYEREISEN (1789-1828) in Pétange.
9 Dec 1822: His brother Jacques married Catherine PHILIPPART (1789-1856) in Pétange. 
André and Marie Catherine Marry
My third great-grandparents André FOURNELLE and Marie Catherine PHILIPPART married on 23 April 1823 in Pétange, Canton of Messancy, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
There are discrepancies on the marriage record concerning the dates of birth of both the bride and groom. The marriage record shows André was born on 24 April 1799 in Lamadelaine while his birth record had his birth date as 4 Fructidor year 7 or 21 August 1799 in Rodange (Département des Forêts, Canton de Bascharage). The dates of birth listed on Marie Catherine’s birth records (two were found) are the 17 and 18 brumaire an X which convert to 8 and 9 November 1801 while the marriage record lists 1 June 1802.
[Source of the 2nd birth record: Luxembourg Civil Records, Pétange > Naissances 1796-1803 Naissances, mariages, décès 1803-1805 Naissances 1805-1815 Mariages 1796-1798, 1800-1803, 1805-1815 Décès 1796-1803, 1806-1815 Publications de mariage 1796-1800, 1802-1805, 1807-1808, 1810-1812 > image 53 of 455. 1801 Birth Record (18 brumaire an X). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32022-6975-37?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-LZR:n1914806713 : accessed 27 Mar 2013).]
During their first year of marriage there were times to rejoice and times to mourn. Their first child Michel Nicolas was born on 23 January 1824 and died less than three weeks later on 11 February 1824. André’s sister Marie married Pierre Joseph MONNET, a widower, on 2 June 1824 in Villers devant Orval in Belgium. Less than two weeks later his mother Marianne SCHMIT died on 14 June 1824.
The year 1825 saw the birth of André and Marie Catherine’s second child Anne Marie on 29 January 1825 in Rodange. The next day André’s oldest brother Jean Baptiste married Marie Anne HEINRICH (1795-1855) on 30 January 1825 in Differdange, Grand Duché de Luxembourg.
Their third child Suzanne was born on 8 May 1826 in Rodange. Suzanne’s paternal uncle Pierre FOURNELLE married Marie ARENDT (1783-1843) on 5 December 1827 in Pétange.
Philippe, their fourth child, was born on 8 January 1828 in Rodange. The following year his paternal uncle Henri FOURNELLE married Marie Jeanne DOMMANGE (1801-1866) on 25 February 1829 in Pétange.
Marguerite, the fifth child of this family, was born on 20 December 1829. Less than a year later son Philippe died on 20 October 1830. André and Marie Catherine named the next child, a son, after their deceased son. Philippe was born on 14 January 1832.
In 1834 another birth and marriage were celebrated. A daughter, Marguerite “Marie” was born 9 March 1834 in Rodange and her paternal uncle Philippe FOURNELLE married Anne-Marie JUNGERS (1791-1874) 10 October 1834 in Pétange.
The family was now made up of four daughters and a son. But Marie Catherine was not finished bearing children to her husband André. She gave birth to son Jean Pierre on 9 February 1836, a son they named after his father André on 25 August 1838, a daughter Catherine on 4 August 1841, and finally a son Joseph Peter born on 11 July 1843.
The birth of her youngest child most likely contributed to Marie Catherine’s death a little over a week later on 20 July 1843.
After his wife’s death André did an amazing job keeping the family together and raising his children Anne Marie, Suzanne, Marguerite, Philippe, Marguerite “Marie”, Jean Pierre, André, Catherine, and Joseph Peter. They were seen with him on the census on 21 December 1843, 7 December 1846, 31 December 1847, 5 December 1849, and 31 December 1851. By the time the census was taken on 5 December 1852 two of the daughters, Suzanne and the elder Marguerite, had left home, most likely to work.
Anne Marie, also known simply as Anne, was the first to marry. She married Maurice ALZIN (1826-1880) on 27 July 1853 in Pétange. The couple remained in the André FOURNELLE household, very likely as Anne was needed to help her father continue to raise the youngest children. When the census was enumerated on 3 December 1855 all of André’s children had left home except for Anne who remained with her husband Maurice and their children.
During the late 1850s three of André’s children were seen marrying in Pétange. The elder Marguerite married Charles GAGET on 2 February 1856. The younger Marguerite, also known as Marie, married Georges LECLERC on 14 April 1858. On the same day her brother Philippe married Rosalie FROGNET (1834-1892).
André FOURNELLE had in his household his married oldest daughter Anne and her family and his single son Jean Pierre when the census was taken on 2 December 1858.
By 1861 the census was now showing Maurice ALZIN, André’s son-in-law, as the head of household. André was in the ALZIN household on 2 December 1861 and 3 December 1864. In 1864 I nearly missed finding him on the census as he was erroneously given the surname PHILIPPART, his deceased wife’s maiden name.
André FOURNELLE died on 2 August 1866 in Rodange at the age of 67 years. He had been a widow for 23 years and raised his nine children without help from outsiders.
Daughter Suzanne FOURNELLE, who had never married, died on 17 July 1868 in Rodange. Her brother-in-law Maurice ALZIN and her 28 years old brother “Jacques” were the informants on her death record. A comparison of the signatures of “Jacques” and of the only Jacques FOURNELLE of the same age living in Rodange at the time shows the informant was NOT Suzanne’s brother. He was her 2nd cousins 1 time removed. Their common ancestors were Pierre FOURNELLE and Jeanne NEU, Suzanne’s great-grandparents. This would suggest the FOURNELLE descendants living in Rodange at the time were very close.
But then the next year when André’s youngest daughter Catherine married Peter STEFFEN on 9 August 1869 in Pétange no FOURNELLE family members witnessed her marriage record. Her brother Philippe had moved to Mont Saint Martin, Meurthe-et-Moselle, France, and her brother André was living in Surré in the northern part of Luxembourg. The whereabouts of her brothers Jean Pierre and Joseph Peter and the two married sisters named Marguerite are unknown.
The oldest daughter of this family, the girl I think of as their “little mother,” Anne Marie “Anne” FOURNELLE died on 17 January 1882 in Rodange. The oldest son, Philippe FOURNELLE died 14 December 1882 in Mont Saint Martin, Meurthe-et-Moselle, France.
The last known living child of this family was my second great-grandfather André FOURNELLE who died on 21 November 1908 in Echternach and was buried on 24 November 1908.
This is my weekly entry for Amy Johnson Crow’s challenge: 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.