The Ancestors: Nicolaus Küffer and Susanna Schiltz of Mamer, Luxembourg

My 5th great-grandparents Nicolaus KÜFFER (1734-1796) and Susanna SCHILTZ (ca. 1737-1807) were likely not married in Mamer where they lived and raised their family. The baptisms of their children were found in Baptêmes 1718-1940, familles alphabétique. This compilation of all baptisms in Mamer from 1718 to 1940 by family groups was filmed in 1962. The records of baptism from 1779-1793 are available on FamilySearch while the same and those from 1790-1804 and 1817-1911 are available on Matricula. I have had to rely on this Family Register of the Parish of Mamer for all children born to the KÜFFER families before 1779.

As the records are not available, I can only assume the compiler of the register used KÜFFER as the spelling of the surname as this is how it was written in the church records he consulted. Five of the eight children born to Nicolaus and Susanna were found in later records. The records show the surname’s various spellings, including Küffer, Küfers, Kiefer, Kieffer, Kifers, and Kiffer. The house they lived in was known as Kiefers house or Kéfisch in Luxembourgish.

The home, as well as the house name, was passed down several generations. In 1842 the King of the Netherlands and Grand Duke of Luxembourg, William II owned land in Mamer. In 1849, when some of the lands were sold, the king’s administrator Baron Ziegesar donated a piece of land to Pierre REDLINGER of Kéfesch for his faithful services.1 Pierre was a great-grandson of the KÜFFER couple. As the oldest living child of Margaretha KOLBACH he had inherited the homeplace from her. It had been passed on to Margaretha from her mother Susanne KIEFFER who’d taken it over from her parents Nicolaus KÜFFER  and Susanna SCHILTZ.

The parents of Nicolaus KÜFFER

Christophorus KÜFFER and Angelica PROBST, the parents of Nicolaus, were married on 7 November 1731 in Mamer. They were the parents of five children baptized in Mamer. Caecelia was baptized on 24 October 1732, Nicolaus on 31 March 1734, Theodorus on 24 September 1736, Petrus on 21 January 1739, and Martinus on 16 October 1742.2

Three months after the birth of Martinus, Angelica, mother of five, married Michael GOERGEN on 21 January 1743. It can only be assumed that her first husband Christophorus died after Martinus was conceived and before Angelica remarried. With her second husband, she had three children: Wilhelmus in 1744, Margaretha in 1747, and Joannes in 1753.3

Of the eight children born to Angelica, only my ancestor Nicolaus was found to have married and had children in Mamer. His brother Petrus is noted as having gone to Monnerich (Mondercange, Luxembourg) and married however no record has been found of such or of children. When Nicolaus’ fourth child was baptized in 1760, Petrus  KÜFFER was named as the godfather. No other KÜFFER or GOERGEN children were godparents of Nicolaus’ children. Could this mean none other than Nicolaus and Petrus survived to adulthood? Deaths and burials were not considered when the family register was compiled. Annotations were made concerning some persons who did not remain in the parish of Mamer but not all.

Angelica PROBST died on 29 April 1786 in Mamer.4 She was widowed for the second time. As her second husband’s death was not found in the deaths/burials from 1779-1786, it is assumed that he died before 1779.

The parents of Susanna SCHILTZ

Susanna SCHILTZ’s parentage is not mentioned in the family register of Mamer. There is no annotation concerning her former place of residence.

Susanna died in the house called Kéfisch in Mamer on 4 August 1807. Her civil death record includes the names of her parents as well as their residence. They were Johannes SCHILTZ and Anna Maria SIMON of Menster (Mensdorf, Luxembourg).5 No records have been found for this couple.

Nicolas KÜFFER and Susanna SCHILTZ become parents

Nicolaus and Susanna were the parents of eight children all baptized in Mamer. They are assumed to have married before the birth of their first child Susanne baptized on 25 March 1754. Their second child and first son, Joannes was baptized on 24 July 1756. His godparents were Joannes SCHILTZ and Anna Elisabeth SIMON. They could have been the maternal grandfather and a maternal aunt but without the record that may give their residence or relationship to the child, this cannot be determined.

The third child of Nicolaus and Susanna was also named Joannes and baptized on 2 October 1757. He was followed by Elisabeth baptized on 25 June 1760. Her godfather was Peter KÜFFER, likely her paternal uncle who went to Monnerich. The fifth child, Peter Nicolas was baptized on 4 August 1763.

In 1766-1767 when the census and cadaster of Marie-Thérèse were taken, Nicolaus and Susanna had five children. The census for Mamer is lost. It would have been a good source for this couple’s living children as all household members were named and placed in age categories. As far as can be determined, from later records, the first four children were likely living in 1766.

Regime A, section 14: cadastre de Marie-Thérèse 1767 — liasse 77 (Mamer) Nicolas Küffers. FamilySearch.

The cadaster of Marie-Thérèse for Mamer from 1767 survived and “Nicolas Kiefers” is enumerated as Hirt or a shepherd in Mamer. The acreage and value of the land he used and its income were calculated on the sheet. The handwriting is hard to read. It may include interesting information on how the family lived. I don’t have the patience needed at this time to sit down and decipher all of the details. What I have been able to figure out is that Nicolaus was using or owned 9 Morgens of farmland, some fallow farmland, a garden and fruit tree orchard, and 3 1/2 Morgens of meadows. I wasn’t able to decipher what he was cultivating and the reason for a deduction made to the total payable tax.6

A gap of nearly 8 years followed the birth of the fifth child. On 5 February 1771, a daughter Margaretha was baptized. Maria was baptized on 22 November 1772 and finally Nicolas on 26 December 1775.

The children begin to marry and start their own families

Of the eight children of Nicolaus and Susanna, three have been found to have married. […the 3rd marriage and family only as I was writing this post!]

Susanne KIEFFER (1754-1808) of Kéfesch house in Mamer, Luxembourg, was my 4th great-grandmother. I wrote about her, both of her husbands, and her children in my post, 52 Ancestors: #44 Legendary Two-Time Tour de France Winner’s Second Great-Grandparents. In January 2018 I was very busy and had little time for format citations for the post. Now over three years later, I noticed this omission and will try to get to the source list when I publish this post. [4 May 2021 Update: Done!]

Susanne KIEFFER married Michel KOLBACH (1784-1838) on 17 February 1783.7 Susanne’s father Nicolaus KÜFFER served as the godfather of their first child Margaretha born and baptized on 4 January 1784.8 With the birth of her daughter Margaretha, they were living in a four-generation house. As the oldest child, Susanne would take over the family home after the deaths of her parents.

1784 Baptismal Record of Margaretha COLBACH aka KOLBACH. FamilySearch.

Joannes KIEFFER married Barbara THIES on 21 January 1785 in Schoenberg.9 The marriage was witnessed by Joannes KIEFFER of Mamer who, if it is not an error in name, was his brother of the same name. Without any further information, it is impossible to tell which Joannes was the groom and which was the witness: Joannes b. 1756 or Joannes b. 1757. This marriage was only discovered when I looked more closely at the godparents of the KOLBACH children and found Barbara THIES wife of Joannes KIEFFER serving as the godmother of a child in 1789.

On 31 March 1785, Elisabeth KIEFFER served as godmother for her nephew Michel KOLBACH, son of her sister Susanne.10

Angelica PROBST, the mother of Nicolaus KÜFFER, died on 29 April 1786 in Mamer and was buried in the town cemetery the following day.11 The Kéfesch house now had only three generations living in it.

Nicolas KÜFFER again served as a godfather for his grandson Nicolaus KIEFFER, son of Joannes and Barbara, born and baptized on 17 September 1786 in Kehlen.12 Young Nicolas was the first of three known children of Joannes and Barbara. Michael KIEFFER was born and baptized on 13 July 1788 in Kehlen. His uncle Michel KOLBACH, husband of Susanne, was his godfather.13 Peter KIEFFER (1789-1849) was born and baptized on 29 December 1789.14

During this time, Susanna was still having children with Michel KOLBACH. Catherine was born and baptized on 29 Nov 1786 in Mamer15 and Petrus was born and baptized on 9 January 1789 in Mamer.16 His godmother was Barbara THIES of Kehlen. It was this record that added an entire branch to the KIEFFER family tree.

1789 Baptismal Record of Petrus COLBACH aka KOLBACH with Barbara THIES uxor Joannes KÜFER ex Kehlen. FamilySearch.

Elisabeth was the last of the three KIEFFER children to marry. She married Nicolas CHRISTOPHORY (1743-1803) on 11 May 1789 in Mamer.17 Their first child Michael CHRISTOPHORY (1790-1856) was born on 2 October 1790 in Mamer. His godfather was his uncle by marriage, Michel KOLBACH.18

Anna Maria, the youngest child of Susanne KIEFFER and Michel KOLBACH, was born on 14 May 1791 and baptized the same day.19

Joannes KIEFFER, the only known son of Nicolaus KIEFFER and Susanna SCHILTZ to marry, died in Kehlen on 26 January 1793.20 Four months later their son-in-law Michel KOLBACH died on 30 May 1793 in Mamer leaving his wife Susanne KIEFFER with 5 small children.21 Less than a year later, Susanne married Paul FRANTZ (1763-1847) on 7 January 1794 in Mamer.22

1794 Marriage Record of Paulus FRANTZ and Susanne KÜFFER aka KIEFFER. MatriculaOnline.

On 18 April 1794 Elisabeth gave birth to her second son Jean CHRISTOPHORY and named her younger sister Maria KIEFFER his godmother.23 Maria was 21 years old at the time. Neither marriage nor a death record has been found for her. However, the baptismal record was a good clue that she was still living in 1794.

Susanne KIEFFER and her new husband Paulus FRANTZ became the parents of twin boys, Nicolas and Johann, on 21 November 1794. The maternal grandfather Nicolaus KÜFFER was chosen to be the godfather of Nicolas.24 The second twin Johann was my 3rd great-grandfather.

1794 Baptismal Record for twins Nicolas and Johann FRANTZ. MatriculaOnline.

A year and a half after the birth of the twins, their maternal grandfather Nicolaus KÜFFER died on 1 May 1796 and was buried the following day. He left a widow, Susanna SCHILTZ.25

The following year brought two births but also two deaths. Susanne and Paul’s son Henri was born on 10 January 1797.26 Less than two months later, Anna Maria KOLBACH, Susanne’s youngest daughter from her first marriage, died on 6 March 1797 at the age of 5.27 Three months later baby Henri died on 6 June 1797 at the age of 5 months.28 Two days later, Susanne’s sister Elisabeth gave birth to her third child, Mathias CHRISTOPHORY.29

Following the turn of the century, the first of the grandchildren married. Margaretha KOLBACH the oldest child of Susanne who would later take over the house Kéfesch married Leonard RÖELINGER on 18 November 1802 in Mamer.30

The last grandchild was born on 31 March 1803 in Mamer when Elisabeth gave birth to Catharina CHRISTOPHORY.31 The child would not grow up knowing her father as Nicolas CHRISTOPHORY died nine months later on 16 December 1803.32 His widow Elisabeth married again on 7 May 1806 to Theodore HELLESCH (1756-?).33

Susanna SCHILTZ, the widow of Nicolaus KÜFFER, died in Kéfesch house on 4 August 1807. Her death was reported by her son-in-law Paul FRANTZ. Her death record, as noted earlier in this post, included the names of her parents. A little over a year later, Paul was back at the city hall reporting the death of his wife Susanne KIEFFER who died on 9 October 1808.34

Two grandsons fought at Waterloo

Battle of Waterloo 1815
William Sadler, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

My 3rd great-grandfather Johann and his twin brother Nicolas FRANTZ joined the 6th Infantry Regiment in Phalsbourg, France on 5 November 1813 and served alongside each other in the regiment. They participated in campaigns of 1814 and 1815 in France and Belgium. Nicolas was wounded in the shoulder by a gunshot received on 10 February 1814 in Montmirail. Johann was wounded in the right arm by a saber cut received on 18 June 1815 at Waterloo.35 After the final fall of the Empire, the brothers returned to Luxembourg. They would marry and have children as did their four KOLBACH half-siblings.

Elisabeth, the last living child of the KÜFFER-SCHILTZ couple

Elisabeth KIEFFER was the only child of Nicolaus KÜFFER and Susanna SCHILTZ still living when her FRANTZ nephews returned from the Battle of Waterloo. Three of her four children married. Her second son, Jean became a Catholic priest serving the parish of Steinheim from 1830 to 184436 and the parish of Bous from 1844 to 1863.37 On 5 July 1872, he was granted honorary dismissal and retirement at his request and because of old age.38 He passed away on 16 November 1873 in Reckange where his older brother Michael had married and raised his family.39

Catholic Church in Steinheim. © 2021, copyright Egon Meder.

Elisabeth was living in the parsonage in Steinheim with her son Jean when she died on 28 April 1838.40 She had been living there since at least 1830 when her oldest son Michael married. She was not present at the marriage in Hesperange but her permission was given by letter from a notary of Echternach.41

A decade after Elisabeth’s death her youngest child and only daughter Catharina went to America with her husband Theodore SAUBER and their seven children. They departed from Antwerp, Belgium on the John Holland and arrived in the port of New Orleans on 18 May 1848.42 They settled in Kenosha County, Wisconsin, where Catharina was last seen in the 1880 census.43

Who said family history has to be boring?

Nicolaus KÜFFER (1734-1796) and Susanna SCHILTZ (ca. 1737-1807) were the parents of eight children. Only three are known to have married and had children. Their grandchildren led interesting lives. Twin grandsons fought at the Battle of Waterloo, a grandson was a Catholic priest, a granddaughter emigrated to America, and their grandson Nicolas FRANTZ (1794-1879) was the great-grandfather of the legendary two-time Tour de France winner Nicolas FRANTZ (1899-1985).

What of the two children who were mentioned in records, Joannes and Maria? Did they marry and have families? Do they have stories left to be told?

© 2021, copyright Cathy Meder-Dempsey. All rights reserved.


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  8. Ibid., Mamer > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 51 of 168. 1784 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32401-18408-0?cc=2037955 : accessed 29 November 2015). 
  9. Ibid., Schoenberg > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1754-1759, 1778-1793 > image 175 of 329, page 429. 1785 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9V3C?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-K6J%3A1501137301%2C1501248302 : accessed 1 May 2021). 
  10. Ibid., Mamer > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 62 of 168. 1785 Baptismal Record (top of left page). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32401-18173-83?cc=2037955 : accessed 29 November 2015). 
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  12. Ibid., GV.MF 172-285, Kehlen, KB-06, Taufen 1760-1796, image 91 of 167, page 179, entry no. 38. “.” 1786 Baptismal Record No. 38. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/kehlen/KB-06/?pg=91 : accessed 1 May 2021). 
  13. Ibid., GV.MF 172-285, Kehlen, KB-06, Taufen 1760-1796, image 103 of 167, page 202, entry no. 28. 1788 Baptismal Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/kehlen/KB-06/?pg=103 : accessed 2 May 2021). 
  14. Ibid., GV.MF 172-285, Kehlen, KB-06, Taufen 1760-1796, image 113 of 167, page 220, entry no. 43. 1789 Baptismal Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/kehlen/KB-06/?pg=113 : accessed 2 May 2021). 
  15. Luxembourg registres paroissiaux 1601-1948, Mamer > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 73 of 168. 1786 Baptismal Record (top of left page). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32401-17555-71?cc=2037955 : accessed 29 November 2015). 
  16. Ibid., Mamer > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 100 of 168. 1789 Baptismal Record (top of right page). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32402-806-79?cc=2037955 : accessed 29 November 2015). 
  17. Diözesanarchiv Luxemburg, Mamer, KB 18: neuer Einband, Paginierung übernommen, Taufen, Heiraten, Sterbefälle [1779-1793], image 108 of 172, page 217, entry at top of page. 1789 Marriage Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/mamer/KB-18/?pg=108 : accessed 1 May 2021). 
  18. Ibid., GV.MF 356-443, Mamer, KB-01, image 6 of 128. 1790 Baptismal Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/mamer/KB-01/?pg=6 : accessed 26 April 2021). 
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  24. Ibid., GV.MF 356-443, Mamer, KB-01, image 29 of 128, page 52, bottom. 1794 Baptismal Record for twins Nicolas and Johann Frantz. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/mamer/KB-01/?pg=29 : accessed 28 April 2021). 
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  26. Ibid., GV.MF 356-443, Mamer, KB-01, image 40 of 128, page 52, bottom. 1797 Baptismal Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/mamer/KB-01/?pg=40 : accessed 28 April 2021). 
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  30.   Luxembourg Registres d’état civil 1662-1941, Mamer > Naissances 1834-1890 Mariages 1796-1837 > image 1185 of 1504. 1802 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12585-49719-87?cc=1709358 : accessed 29 November 2015). 
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  32. Ibid., GV.MF 356-443, Mamer, KB-01, image 127 of 128, page 244 (stamped), 4th entry. 1803 Death Record. (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/LU/luxemburg/mamer/KB-01/?pg=127 : accessed 26 April 2021). 
  33. Luxembourg Registres d’état civil 1662-1941, Mamer > Naissances 1834-1890 Mariages 1796-1837 > image 1195+1196 of 1504. 1806 Marriage Record (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61F9-RCL?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-FM9%3A130065401%2C130365601 : accessed ‎21. ‎August ‎2011) and 1806 Marriage Record (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61F9-G1N?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-FM9%3A130065401%2C130365601 : accessed ‎21. ‎August ‎2011). 
  34. Ibid., Mamer > Mariages 1838-1890 Décès 1796-1880 > image 595 of 1497. 1808 Death Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12143-119238-21?cc=1709358 : accessed 23 March 2010). 
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  36. Diözesanarchiv Luxemburg, GV.MF 444-525, Steinheim, KB-02, Jean Christophory was the priest entering events from 1844 to 1863. 
  37. Ibid., GV.MF 628 – 719, Bous, KB-08, Firmungen – Heiraten – Kommunion – Sterbefälle – Taufen – 1834 – 1865, Jean Christophory was the priest entering events from 1844 to 1863. 
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  40. Ibid., Rosport > Naissances 1889-1890 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1853 > image 1224 of 1410. 1838 Death Record No. 23. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DY3D-SB?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-3TL%3A130314401%2C130555301 : accessed 25 April 2021). 
  41. Ibid., Hesperange > Naissances 1869-1890 Mariages 1797-1823, 1796-1868 > image 1122 of 1492. 1830 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DKRX-B8?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-7M9%3A129747201%2C130056301 : accessed 2 May 2021). 
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52 Ancestors: #15 The FABER-LORENTZ Family (1813-1915)

Week 15 (April 9-16) – How Do You Spell That? What ancestor do you imagine was frequently asked that? Which ancestor did you have a hard time finding because of an unusual name?

Jean FABER was born on 25 April 1813[1] in Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. Two days after the birth of his son, the father Jean FABER, age 25, went to the townhall to register the child born to his wife Marguerithe SCHENTEN. They wanted to name him after his father. The birth record was recorded in French as were the names. The father however signed his name Johann FABER, using the German version of his name.

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1813 Birth Record No. 35 [1]
When “Jean FABER” married the record was in German. Johann FABER married Maria LORENTZ, daughter of Mathias LORENTZ and Margaretha PREUSEN, on 28 July 1841[2] in Diekirch. Johann was 28 and Maria was 27. Of the four parents of the bridal couple only the father of the groom and the mother of the bride signed the marriage record. The groom’s mother could not write and the bride’s father was deceased. All of the witnesses were relatives of the bride – makes me wonder if the bride’s family was making sure that they went through with the marriage. Three of the witnesses were her uncles and the fourth was a brother-in-law.

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1841 Marriage Record No. 13 [2]
As with Jean FABER, his wife Maria’s birth record is in French. Marie LORENTZ was born at 7 in the morning on 1 April 1814[3] in Diekirch. Her father Mathias LORENTZ only waited until after the mid-day meal to go to the town hall at 3 in the afternoon to register the birth of his daughter born to his wife Marguerithe PREISEN. Mathias LORENTZ was literate as he signed his name on the birth record.

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1814 Birth Record No. 30 [3]
How do you spell that?

Here is where the theme for this week comes into the picture. How was the mother of the bride’s maiden name spelled? PREISEN or PREUSEN? It was interchangeable in the census records. I believe that this is mostly due to the fact that this family lived during a time that house names were often used instead of their surnames. In this case, PREISEN most likely was the house name. I checked the phone book for Luxembourg and both spellings of the name appear to have died out. There are a few people named PRUSEN in Luxembourg but none who spelled their name PREISEN or PREUSEN. It would be interesting to follow all the collateral lines of this family to see if all male lines of the family died out or if they changed the spelling of the name sometime during World War I or II as Preisen is an offensive term for Germans.

The Children of Jean and Maria FABER-LORENTZ

Jean FABER and Maria LORENTZ had the following children.

  • Johann “Jean” FABER was born on 1 January 1842[4] in Diekirch. He died on 20 May 1880[5] in Diekirch. Johann married Marguerite DAHLEM, daughter of Nicolas DAHLEM and Elisabeth BERINGER, on 6 December 1876[6] in Diekirch. Marguerite was born on 28 January 1848[7] in Diekirch. She died on 27 April 1922[8] in Diekirch. They did not have children.
  • Catharina “Cathérine” FABER was born on 8 January 1844[9] in Diekirch. She was not with her father in 1864 or 1871 when the census was taken. She was listed on the 1867 census in her father’s household but marked out with the notation that she married in Metz, France. No further trace has been found.
  • Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER was born on 19 February 1846[10] in Diekirch. She died 0n 28 February 1915[11] in Diekirch. Elisabetha married Franz “François” MEDER, son of Théodore MEDER and Susanna REIFFER, on 20 September 1869[12] in Diekirch. Franz was born on 17 May 1846[13] in Diekirch. He died on 7 September 1930[14] in Diekirch. They were the parents of 11 children.
  • Marguerite FABER was born on 27 April 1848[15] in Diekirch. No trace of this child after 1871.
  • Peter “Pierre” FABER was born on 25 July 1850[16] in Diekirch. He died on 18 March 1851[17] in Diekirch.

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1851 Death Record No. 12 [18]
The mother of this family Maria “Marie” LORENTZ died on 11 February 1851[18] in Diekirch. Jean was left to raise his four living children under the age of 10 on his own. Less than a year after the death of his wife he found a new partner and step-mother for his children.

The Second Marriage of Jean FABER

Jean FABER married Cathérine GIVER, daughter of Conrad GIVER and Cathérine PROBST, on 4 February 1852[19] in Diekirch. Cathérine was born on 8 October 1823[20] in Medernach.

They had the following children.

  • Marie FABER was born on 18 August 1854[21] in Diekirch. She died on 10 May 1855[22] in Diekirch.
  • Pierre FABER was born on 30 January 1857[23] in Diekirch. He died on 1 February 1858[24] in Diekirch.
  • Marie FABER was born on 15 January 1859[25] in Diekirch. No further trance of this child was found after 1871.

Jean’s second wife Cathérine GIVER died on 19 February 1862[26] in Diekirch less than two weeks after their 10th wedding anniversary. She gave Jean FABER three children, only the youngest Marie, who was only 3 years old, lived.

Jean, once again widowed, had five children aged 3 to 20 years. His oldest daughter Catharina may have gone to Metz, France, to work soon after her step-mother’s death as she was not in her father’s household in 1864. By 1867 a note was made on the census that she had married in Metz. The Tables Décennales (10-year lists) for Metz is online however marriages are listed in alphabetical order by groom making it tedious to find a bride with such a common name. When I have some spare time I plan to run through the marriages in hopes of at least finding a date of marriage and a name for the groom.

Jean was counted in Diekirch on the Luxembourg census in the following years and households:

  • 29 December 1843 in the Faber-Lorentz household.[27]
  • 5 December 1846 in the Faber-Lorentz household.[28]
  • 31 December 1847 in the Faber-Lorentz household.[29]
  • 3 December 1849 in the Faber-Lorentz household.[3]
  • 31 December 1851 in the household of the widower Jean Faber.[31]
  • 3 December 1852 in the Faber-Giver household.[32]
  • 3 December 1855 in the Faber-Giver household.[33]
  • 5 December 1858 in the Faber-Giver household.[34]
  • 3 December 1861 in the Faber-Giver household.[35]
  • 1 December 1864 in the household of the widower Jean Faber.[36]
  • 3 December 1867 in the household of the widower Jean Faber.[37]
  • 1 December 1871 in the widower Jean Faber and Meder-Faber household (two families).[38]

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1863 Death Record No. 27 [39]
The father of this family Jean FABER, seen as Johann FABER, died on 26 April 1873[39] in Diekirch.His death was declared by his son Johann FABER who signed Jean FABER. The names of both of his wives are included on the death record.

His son married in 1876, died in 1880 and did not have children. His two youngest daughters, Marguerite and Marie, were single in 1873. They have not been located in the census after 1871, no marriage records or death records were found for them in Diekirch. Could they have followed their oldest sister Catharina to Metz, France?

This leaves only one child of Jean FABER and Marguerite LORENTZ, as far as records have been found to date, who had children to continue this line: his daughter Elise, my husband’s great-grandmother, who married Franz MEDER and had 11 children. Six of these children did not marry or have children. The other five children, all sons, married and continued the line.

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1141 of 1493. 1813 Birth Record No. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-125930-69?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N5:n983817566 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[2] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 1461 of 1492. 1841 Marriage Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-102229-19?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[3] Ibid, Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1173 of 1493. 1814 Birth Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-125996-59?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-W38:129628901,130575701 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[4] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 460 of 1507. 1880 Birth Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-26364-6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[5] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 1121 of 1358. 1880 Death Record No. 33. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-160312-73?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[6] Ibid, Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 661 of 1493. 1876 Marriage Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-49231-73?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-929:129628901,129848701 : accessed 1 May 2010).
[7] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 612 of 1507. 1848 Birth Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-30862-96?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[8] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1903-1912 > image 461 of 500. 1922 Death Record No. 26. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32027-19213-66?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-J4Q:129628901,129787701 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[9] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 511 of 1507. 1844 Birth Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-33880-82?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 1 May 2010).
[10] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 562 of 1507. 1846 Birth Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-35573-94?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NV:n960823085 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1903-1912 > image 292 of 500. 1915 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32027-19436-87?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-J4Q:129628901,129787701 : accessed 11 January 2015).
[12] Ibid, Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 562 of 1493. 1869 Marriage Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-48904-35?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[13] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 569 of 1507. 1846 Birth Record No. 39. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-27954-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NV:n960823085 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[14] Enders-Meder family tree drawing
[15]  Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 616 of 1507. 1848 Birth Record No. 24. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-34330-37?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 1 May 2010).
[16] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 675 of 1507. 1850 Birth Record No. 49. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-28816-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 1 May 2010).
[17] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 441 of 1358. 1851 Death Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170660-73?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[18] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 439 of 1358. 1851 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170657-76?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[19] Ibid, Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 222 of 1493. 1852 Marriage Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-48662-30?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[20] Ibid, Medernach > Naissances 1779-1825 > image 343 of 368. 1823 Birth Record No. 20. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11694-60750-88?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-BZ9:130066901,130121101 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[21] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 513 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-162945-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[22] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 513 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-162945-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[23] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 858 of 1507. 1857 Birth Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-27217-96?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed  ‎19‎ Mar ‎2010).
[24] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 574 of 1358. 1858 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-164187-82?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[25] Ibid, Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 920 of 1507. 1859 Birth Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-30493-23?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[26] Ibid, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 650 of 1358. 1862 Death Record No. 20. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-166052-72?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 29 March 2015).
[27] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch, (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > 1843 > image 51 of 444. Faber-Lorentz household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32349-19385-40?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-MJ4:345999901,345863501 : accessed 7 January 2015).
[28] Ibid, Diekirch > 1846 > image 39 of 347. Faber-Lorentz household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32358-16472-49?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-82R:345999901,345858602 : accessed 11 March 2015).
[29] Ibid, Diekirch > 1847 > image 48 of 506. Faber-Lorentz household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32360-33313-5?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-7MB:345999901,345864101 : accessed 11 March 2015).
[30] Ibid, Diekirch > 1849 > image 5 of 504. Faber-Lorentz household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32360-14249-70?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-44Q:345999901,345864801 : accessed 11 March 2015).
[31] Ibid, Diekirch > 1851 > image 439 of 601. Faber household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32368-2402-92?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-6Y3:345999901,345865601 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[32] Ibid, Diekirch > 1852 > image 367 of 551. Faber-Giver household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32376-18512-46?cc=2037957&wc=M5LY-Y4T:345999901,345865501 : accessed 25 March 2015).
[33] Ibid, Diekirch > 1855 > image 267 of 534. Faber-Giver household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32378-32616-41?cc=2037957&wc=M5GM-K6Y:345999901,345866501 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[34] Ibid, Diekirch > 1858 > image 468 of 635. Faber-Giver household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32378-11465-28?cc=2037957&wc=M5LB-VZL:345999901,345867601 : accessed 25 March 2015).
[35] Ibid, Diekirch > 1861 > image 570 of 646. Faber-Giver household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32381-10670-71?cc=2037957&wc=M5LY-16P:345999901,345867101 : accessed 14 March 2015).
[36] Ibid, Diekirch > 1864 > image 430 of 689. Jean Faber household 16b. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32373-28311-79?cc=2037957&wc=M5LY-168:345999901,345868401 : accessed 25 January 2015).
[37] Ibid, Diekirch > 1867 > image 156 of 649. Jean Faber household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32377-7786-90?cc=2037957&wc=M5GM-SP8:345999901,345869101 : accessed 25 January 2015).
[38] Ibid, Diekirch > 1871 > image 1359 of 1420. Faber-Lorentz and Meder-Faber households No. 18 & 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32382-19035-72?cc=2037957&wc=M5GS-ZNP:345999901,345869501 : accessed 7 January 2015).
[39] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 970 of 1358. 1873 Death Record No. 27. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-165974-79?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Johann “Jean” FABER
Parents: Johann “Jean” FABER and Marie Cathérine “Margaretha” SCHENTEN
Spouse: Maria “Marie” LORENTZ(*), Catherine GIVER
Parents of spouse(*): Mathias “Mathieu” LORENTZ and Margaretha PREUSEN
Whereabouts: Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s great-great-grandfather

1. Johann “Jean” FABER
2. Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER
3. Johann Peter “Jean-Pierre” MEDER
4. Marcel Mathias MEDER
5. Cathy Meder-Dempsey’s husband

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

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