52 Ancestors: #21 The Schaeffer-Greisch Family of Eschdorf

Earlier this week I wrote Lëtz Play! Can You Top This? A Marriage Record With 15 Events in which I shared the marriage record[1] of my children’s sixth great-grandfather Jean Baptiste SCHAEFFER (1752-1819). It was a second marriage for both the bride and groom. Jean Baptiste was first married to Catherine SCHAACK (1752-1801). Nicolas SCHAEFFER was their first known child. I doubt he was their first born as they were married 9 February 1777 in Heiderscheid[2] while Nicolas was not born until 14 July 1783 in Merscheid.[3] I’ve found four of his siblings, all born later and in Merscheid, but the search for older siblings is still underway.

Nicolas SCHAEFFER was twenty-six years old when he married the twenty-nine years old Theresia GREISCH on 19 February 1810 in Esch.[4] The bride and the groom were working as day laborers at the time of their marriage. Nicolas was living in Merscheid and Theresia in Eschdorf. The groom and his father and the bride and her mother left their mark on the marriage record.

1810 Marriage Record No. 5 (part 1)[4]
1810 Marriage Record No. 5 (part 2)[4]
1810 Marriage Record No. 5 (part 3)[4]
The marriage took place in Esch, today known as Esch-sur-Sûre in the northwestern part of Luxembourg. It is not to be confused with Esch-sur-Alzette in the southwestern part of the county. Nicolas and Theresia are one of the many sets of fifth great-grandparents in my children’s family tree.

Theresia GREISCH was the first child of Nicolas GREISCH (1759-1803) and Susanne ROLLINGER (abt. 1757-1819). She was born on 24 May 1781 in Eschdorf,[4] ten months after her parents married on 11 July 1780 in Wahl.[5]

Theresia’s place of birth is, as yet, undocumented. She had at least six siblings, five born in Eschdorf, and one in Brattert. Baptismal records have been found for these children. At the time of her marriage, Theresia’s place of birth was given as Eschdorf. When she died the informant gave Wahl as her place of birth. Three census listings were found, each has a different place of birth: Eschdorf, Wahl, and Dellen. For the time being, I will list the date and place of birth found in the 1810 marriage record[4] but will continue to search for a baptismal record to confirm or refute the date and place.

UPDATE (13 June 2017): Linda, a Luxembourg researcher who has helped me out several times during this year’s 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks series of posts, located the missing baptismal record for Theresia GREISCH in Wahl. She was baptized on 17 April 1781 and was born the previous day.

1781 Baptismal Record. Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Wahl > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 25 of 148. 1781 Baptismal Record (left page, 2nd entry).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-SJQ?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-D5S%3A1501211501%2C1500913302 : accessed 13 June 2017).

At the time of their marriage, both Nicolas and Theresia had lost one parent. Catherine SCHAACK, Nicolas’ mother, died on 28 November 1801 in Merscheid[6] while Nicolas GREISCH, Theresia’s father, had died on 21 January 1803 in Eschdorf.[7]

Brothers marry Sisters

Three months after Nicolas and Theresia’s marriage, his brother Jean Pierre married her sister Catharina on 22 May 1810.[8] Catharina was in a family way when the marriage took place as five months later, on 10 October 1810, a son was born.[9] Wouldn’t it be interesting to learn how they met and who knew whom first? 

The SCHAEFFER-GREISCH Children

From the different records found I believe the SCHAEFFER-GREISCH couple remained in Eschdorf during their entire married life. All of their children were born in this small town.

  • Ch 1: Bernard (1811-?) was born on 8 August 1811.[10]
  • Ch 2: Marguerite (1813-1815) was born on 15 September 1813.[11] She lived less than a year and a half, dying on 16 March 1815.[12] Her mother was pregnant with her third child at the time of Marguerite’s death.
  • Ch 3: Catherina (1815-1898) was born 14 April 1815.[13] She was my children’s fourth great-grandmother.
  • Ch 4: Susanne (1818-1863) was born on 31 March 1818.[14] She was a twin.
  • Ch 5: Marguerithe (1818-1818) was born on 31 March 1818.[15] She was Susanne’s twin and lived only nine days, dying on 9 April 1818.[16]

In 1819 the children Bernard, Catherina and Susanne lost the only grandparents they ever knew. Their maternal grandmother Susanne ROLLINGER died on 15 May 1819 in Eschdorf[17] and their paternal grandfather Jean Baptiste SCHAEFFER died on 22 November 1819 in Bourglinster.[18]

  • Ch 6: Elisabetha (1821-1882) was born on 4 November 1821.[19]
  • Ch 7: Catherina (1823-?) was born 7 December 1823.[20]

No trace of the oldest child and only son, Bernard, or the youngest daughter, Catherina, has been found. Of the seven children born to Theresia and Nicolas, only three are known to have survived to adulthood.

Three Daughters Marry

The oldest living daughter Catherina SCHAEFFER married Frederich GRISIUS (1805-1852) on 3 July 1833 in Hoscheid, Kanton Vianden, Luxembourg.[21] Their story was told in 52 Ancestors: #36 The GRISIUS-SCHAEFFER Family – Working for a Living.

Susanne SCHAEFFER, the next oldest daughter, was the next to marry. She married Jean BERTHOLET (1812-1864) on 17 May 1841 in Mecher, Wiltz, Luxembourg.[22]

The youngest of the three living daughters, Elisabetha SCHAEFFER married Thomas JUSTE (1816-1883) on 28 Jan 1843 in Heiderscheid, Wiltz, Luxembourg.
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I had to do a lot of browsing to learn more about Susanne and Elisabetha. With only their marriage records, I wondered where I would be able to find them after the events.

I looked into Elisabetha first. Her husband was from Nothomb, a small village in the commune of Attert, in the Province of Luxembourg in Belgium. At the time of their marriage, he was living in Heiderscheid (Luxembourg). Not finding any immediate trace of them there, I took a chance with the FamilySearch records for the Province of Luxembourg in Belgium. I located birth records for eight children born between 1848-1867 in Parette, a village in the commune of Attert, as well as death records for four children who died in the 1850s. But I still had a large gap between 1843 when they married and 1848 when their first child was born in Belgium.

I then checked for Susanne whose husband was born in Holtz in the commune of Perlé in western Luxembourg near the Belgium border. Jean BERTHOLET was living and working in Béiwen (Bavigne) when they married. Béiwen was in the commune of Mecher in Luxembourg where I found their sad story. Susanne gave birth to at least five daughters. Sadly, the first died before the birth of the second, the second before the third, and the third before the fourth. Then the fifth also died after only three months. Only the fourth daughter, Anna born in 1854 lived. However, the question remains, how long? Susanne died in 1863 and her husband in 1864 leaving Anna an orphan. She may have lived with her uncle Johann MERSCH (who had married her father’s sister) immediately after her father’s death but this is not definite as the child seen on the 1864 census in his household was named Susanne, an 11-year-old servant girl. By 1867 a very young Anna BERTHOLET, 14 years and 2 months, was working as a servant for an unmarried female farmer, Anna Catherine PROBST in Béiwen. No trace has been found of her after 1867.

Once I knew more of each of the daughters I came back to Nicolas and Theresia to see how their lives continued after their daughters married.

1843 Luxembourg Census for Nicolas SCHAEFFER in Eschdorf, Heiderscheid (cropped).

On 14 December 1843, a peculiar census[24] was found for Nicolas SCHAEFFER. He was living in Eschdorf which was expected. By this time, his daughter Catherina was well established in Hoscheid with her husband Frederich GRISIUS and their three young sons. Elisabetha had been married less than a year and as mentioned above, missing during this time period. Daughter Susanne, her husband Jean BETHOLET, and their daughter Elisabetha were living in Nicolas’ household. The daughter’s birth record has not been found but her presence was not unexpected as I had found her 1845 death record in the commune of Mecher. Also on the census sheet was Theresia GREISCH, Nicolas’ wife and mother of Susanne, but her name was crossed out. Was she away from home, perhaps visiting with Elisabetha who has not been located?

On 6 December 1846[25] and on 31 December 1847[26] Nicolas and Theresia were the only persons in his household in Eschdorf.

1846 Luxembourg Census for the Bertholet-Linden household.

On 19 December 1846 Elisabetha and Susanne, both married, were found with their husbands in the BERTHOLET-LINDEN household, Susanne’s parents-in-law, in Bavigne. Each had a daughter.[27]

Theresia GREISCH died on 26 May 1848 in Eschdorf.[28] Her husband Nicolas was not found on the 1851 or 1852 census. He died 10 April 1855 in Eschdorf.[29]

Seven months after her father died, Catherina who was widowed in 1852, remarried. The 40 years old bride married Nicolas WIRTZ, a 22 years old young man, on 30 November 1855 in Hoscheid.[30]

Susanne SCHAEFFER who had been living in Béiwen (Bavigne) died on 25 June 1863.[31] She left a husband and daughter.

Elisabetha SCHAEFFER died on 19 November 1882 in Aubange.[32] She appears to have been visiting with her son, a butcher, who declared the death. It was recorded in the Aubange register[32] as well as the Attert register[33] as this was her normal residence. She left a husband Thomas JUSTE who died the following year on Christmas Day.[34] The four sons who may have continued the JUSTE line have not been researched.

Catherina SCHAEFFER, my children’s ancestress, died on 16 January 1898 in Hoscheiderdickt. at the age of 82 years.[35] She outlived her young second husband who died in 1882[36] after nearly 27 years of marriage.

I’m glad I took the time to research this family further. Although it was sad to find so many small children’s deaths, it was satisfying to be able to learn more of Catharina’s parents Nicolas and Theresia and her sisters Susanne and Elisabetha.

And now before you leave, I’d like to share a milestone.

Yesterday morning Opening Doors in Brick Walls had a visit from Poland. I don’t know who it was or what they were viewing. The person who visited made my view counter click over from 99,999 to 100,000 views since I started blogging in January 2014. I’d like to thank all my readers, followers, and visitors for making me feel special and helping me to stay motivated to continue writing about my genealogy research. It’s much appreciated.

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[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Junglinster > Naissances 1859-1890 Mariages 1797-1876 > image 790 of 1488. 1809 Marriage Record No. 8 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RQ2-HB?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-7M9%3A129919601%2C130104101 : accessed 3 June 2017) and 1809 Marriage Record No. 8 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RQN-6Y?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-7M9%3A129919601%2C130104101 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[2] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Heiderscheid > Mariages 1751-1778, sépultures 1743-1778 > image 30 of 31. 1777 Marrige Record (right page, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-CYGS?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-Y4S%3A1500941101%2C1500950136 : accessed 7 June 2017).
[3] Ibid., Heiderscheid > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1783-1793, 1796-1797 > image 5 of 47. 1783 Baptismal Record (left page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-CB62?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-Y47%3A1500941101%2C1500983366 : accessed 2 June 2017).
[4] Luxembourg Civil Records, Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 304 of 1486. 1810 Marriage Record No. 5 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-3KK?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017) and 1810 Marriage Record No. 5 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-WFS?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[5] Luxembourg Church Records, Wahl > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 17 of 148. 1780 Marriage Record (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-S28?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-D5S%3A1501211501%2C1500913302 : accessed 8 June 2017).
[6] Luxembourg Civil Records, Arsdorf > Sépultures 1779-1793 > image 84 of 210. 1801 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D16Q-6QB?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-L2S%3A129626201%2C129778601 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[7] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 1036 of 1486. 1803 Death Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-DM3?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 7 June 2017).
[8] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 300 of 1486. 1810 Marriage Record No. 1 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-7KZ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017) and 1810 Marriage Record No. 1 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-S58?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[9] Ibid., Grosbous > Tables décennales 1873-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1823 Naissances 1797-1804 Naissances, mariages, décès 1804-1805 Naissances 1805-1890 Mariages 1797-1834 > images 116 and 117 of 1452. 1810 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DT99-F79?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-GP8%3A129626401%2C950246901 : accessed 8 June 2017).
[10] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1797-1822 > image 192 of 387. 1811 Birth Record No. 45. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-Z6H?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W38%3A129625501%2C129709401 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[11] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1797-1822 > image 228 of 387. 1813 Birth Record (pages missing for records no. 42 through 45). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-6Q2?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W38%3A129625501%2C129709401 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[12] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 1152 of 1486. 1816 Death Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-W5T?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[13] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1797-1822 > image 247 of 387. 1815 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-NQK?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W38%3A129625501%2C129709401 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[14] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1797-1822 > image 310 of 387. 1818 Birth Record No. 15 (twins). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-6LZ?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W38%3A129625501%2C129709401 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[15] Ibid.
[16] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 1188 of 1486. 1818 Death Record No. 20. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-8JP?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[17] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1882 Mariages 1797-1890 Décès 1797-1850 > image 1207 of 1486. 1819 Death Record No. 42. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68Y7-HF9?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TG%3A129625501%2C129816601 : accessed 7 June 2017).
[18] Ibid., Junglinster > Mariages 1877-1890 Décès 1797-1890 > image 378 of 1362. 1819 Death Record No. 58. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DT4Q-YHL?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-6TL%3A129919601%2C129919602 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[19] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1797-1822 > image 362 of 387. 1821 Birth Record No. 49. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-JXL?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W38%3A129625501%2C129709401 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[20] Ibid., Esch > Naissances 1823-1850 > image 16 of 276. 1823 Birth Record No. 60. “Luxembourg Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1PQ-VWP?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-W3X%3A129625501%2C129755201 : accessed 3 June 2017).
[21] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 841 of 1491. 1833 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57155-81?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[22] Ibid., Mecher > Mariages 1824-1890 Décès 1797-1824, 1797-1876 > image 125 of 1496. 1841 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-183988-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-N38:130066801,130109301 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[23] Ibid., Heiderscheid > Naissances 1872-1890 Mariages 1800-1857 > image 801 of 1489. 1843 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6PLQ-NS6?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-T38%3A129701001%2C130285302 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[24] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Heinerscheid > 1843 > image 130 of 483. Nicolas Schaeffer household. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-897B-7S77?cc=2037957&wc=M5L5-G5M%3A345857701%2C345863501 : 22 May 2014).
[25] Ibid., Heiderscheid > 1846 > image 85 of 297. Schaeffer-Greisch household. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997B-JRSC?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-7MQ%3A345859301%2C345858602 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[26] Ibid., Heiderscheid > 1847 > image 64 of 366. Schaeffer-Greisch household. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997B-DW96?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-82P%3A345859301%2C345864101 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[27] Ibid., Mecher > 1846 (n 79) > image 28 of 198. Bertholet-Linden household. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997B-FWS7?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-G56%3A345858901%2C345961101 : accessed 5 June 2017).
[28] Luxembourg Civil Records, Heiderscheid > Mariages 1858-1890 Décès 1798-1854 > image 1146 of 1247. 1848 Death Record No. 41. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68YN-2D?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-3TL%3A129701001%2C129879701 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[29] Ibid., Heiderscheid > Décès 1855-1871 > image 11 of 282. 1855 Death Record No. 41. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRLQ-XZ6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-SP6%3A129701001%2C129761801 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[30] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1133 of 1491. 1855 Marriage Record No. (none). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-64867-67?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[31] Ibid., Mecher > Mariages 1824-1890 Décès 1797-1824, 1797-1876 > image 1335 of 1496. 1863 Death Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1SW-26F?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-N38%3A130066801%2C130109301 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[32] Belgique, Luxembourg, registres d’état civil, 1580-1920, (images), FamilySearch (België Nationaal Archief, Brussels / Belgium National Archives, Brussels), Aubange > Actes 1881-1887 > image 152 of 453. 1882 Death Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RNL-7JC?cc=2138510&wc=S51X-K6D%3A367343701%2C367855301 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[33] Ibid., Attert > Actes 1881-1885 > image 300 of 303. 1882 Birth Record No. 40 (conformed copy from Aubange in the Attert register). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJ4-822?cc=2138510&wc=S51N-BZQ%3A367347801%2C367463801 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[34] Ibid., Attert > Actes 1885-1890 > image 136 of 861. 1883 Death Record No. 50. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRNL-Z2F?cc=2138510&wc=S51X-HZW%3A367347801%2C367785701 : accessed 4 June 2017).
[35] Luxembourg Civil Records, Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 698 of 727. 1898 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32039-1681-25?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2BX:1860526490 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[36] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 247 of 296. 1882 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-71116-56?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 5 September 2015).

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Lëtz Play! Can You Top This? A Marriage Record With 15 Events

Each week, as I write about another set of my children’s Luxembourgish 5th great-grandparents, I review the information I have. If I haven’t worked on the family in a while, I search for baptismal and/or birth records, marriage banns, marriage records, death and/or burial records, census records on FamilySearch in the collections for Luxembourg or Lëtzebuerg.

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This week I looked into the SCHAEFFER-GREISCH family. I’ll be sharing the post on Friday. However, I couldn’t wait to play this little game with you.

Lëtz Play! Can You Top This?

Have you found a record in your genealogy research which reveals as many events as the one I discovered?

When I re-read the 1810 marriage record of the SCHAEFFER-GREISCH couple who married in Esch-sur-Sûre in north-western Luxembourg, I found the widowed father of the groom was living in Bourglinster, a town in the commune of Junglinster in central Luxembourg. I found his 1819 death record in Junglinster and learned he had remarried. When and where did this marriage take place?

I located the 1809 marriage record in Junglinster and it is filled with genealogical information. Imagine finding the dates for fifteen (15) events in one record!

Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Junglinster > Naissances 1859-1890 Mariages 1797-1876 > image 790 of 1488. 1809 Marriage Record No. 8 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RQ2-HB?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-7M9%3A129919601%2C130104101 : accessed 3 June 2017).
Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Junglinster > Naissances 1859-1890 Mariages 1797-1876 > image 791 of 1488. 1809 Marriage Record No. 8 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RQN-6Y?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-7M9%3A129919601%2C130104101 : accessed 3 June 2017).
  • 21 April 1809 – Date of marriage for Johann Baptiste SCHAFFER and Catherine WEINTZ
  • 22 June 1752 – Date of birth of the groom, Johann Baptiste SCHAFFER
  • 7 Frimaire year X – Date of death of the groom’s first wife Catherine JACQUES (aka SCHAACK)
  • 16 January 1795 – Date of death of Jean SCHAFFER, father of the groom
  • 21 February 1771 – Date of death of Marie BRAACK, mother of the groom
  • 15 March 1760 – Date of death of Jean SCHAFFER, grandfather of the groom
  • 25 March 1760 – Date of death of Susanne SCHAFFER, grandmother of the groom
  • 3 Nov 1765 – Date of birth of the bride, Catherine WEINTZ
  • 9 Pluviose year XII – Date of death of the bride’s first husband, Matthias REIDELER
  • 21 February 1773 – Date of death of Michel WEINTZ, father of the bride
  • 3 Frimaire 1797 – Date of death of Marie BRAUN, mother of the bride
  • 12 April 1749 – Date of death of Theodore WEINTZ, grandfather of the bride
  • 19 April 1767 – Date of death of Marguerite WEINTZ, grandmother of the bride
  • 26 March 1809 – First proclamation of the marriage banns
  • 2 April 1809 – Second proclamation of the marriage banns

It’s normal to find dates of death of the first spouse and deceased parents of the bride and/or groom in Luxembourgish marriage records. I have also seen the fact that the grandparents were deceased when the party was an orphan. But this was the first record I’ve seen with names and dates for the grandparents of the bride and groom.

Have you found a record with this many events mentioned? I’d love to hear about it. Please leave a comment or link to a post you’ve written about your extraordinary find.

© 2017, copyright Cathy Meder-Dempsey. All rights reserved.

52 Ancestors: #20 The Family Who Lived in the Tip of the Shoe

Mathias GRISIUS married Magdalena SCHAETTER on the 23rd day of the month Pluviôse in the 6th year of the French Republic in Alscheid in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.[1] This date from the French Republican calendar converts to 11 February 1798 on the Gregorian calendar. An easy to use converter can be found on the Pas-de-Calais Archives website.

Pluviôse commence le 21 ou 22 janvier
By Tresca, Salvatore (Graveur) – Lafitte, Louis (Dessinateur du modèle) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The French Republican Calendar Months

The Republican calendar begins with the autumn months, the first being Vendémiaire (starting around 22 September) with the name coming from the French word vendange or grape harvest. The next two fall months were Brumaire (brume or mist) and Frimaire (frimas or frost). The winter months were Nivôse (Latin nivosus or snowy), Pluviôse (pluvieux or rainy), and Ventôse (venteux or windy). The spring months were Germinal (germination), Floréal (fleur or flower) and Prairial (prairie or meadow). The summer months were Messidor (Latin messis or harvest), Thermidor (Greek thermon or summer heat), and Fructidor (Latin fructus or fruit).

This little French Republican calendar diversion was not meant to distract attention from my children’s fifth great-grandparents, Mathias and Magdalena.

Mathias GRISIUS

Mathias, the son of Leonard GRITIUS (1743-1813) and Marie NEIEN (d. bef. 11 February 1798), was born on 10 May 1776 in Ouren, Province de Liege, Belgium. His birth record has not been found. [I’m looking for tips on how to research church records for this period in Belgium.] When he married the marriage record[1] included his date of birth and indicated he was born in the canton of Wiltz. When he died his death record[2] listed Ouren in Luxembourg. Today, if you look on a map, Ouren is located in Belgium at the border triangle of Belgium-Germany-Luxembourg. All of the borders are tangent in the middle of the Our River.

His parents’ names came from his marriage record. At this time, his siblings are unknown.

Magdalena SCHAETTER

Magdalena, the daughter of Jean SCHETTERT and Anna Catharina SCHAACK, was born on 26 April 1775 in Grümelscheid,[3] also called Grummelscheid in French and Grëmmelescht in Luxembourgish. The town is today part of the Winseler commune in the canton of Wiltz. Her birth record was found in the Oberwampach church records.

When Things Don’t Want to Fall in Place

While searching for more information on the parents and siblings of Magdalena SCHAETTER, I found a table of baptisms for Oberwampach for 1716 to 1797. It helped to find many baptisms for children with these surname variations: Schutter, Schoettert, Shetter, Schettert and Schaettert. The church records for the entire period for the Oberwampach area will have to be carefully viewed and followed up on as there is some confusion as to the name of Jean SCHETTERT’s wife as seen in several online GEDCOM files. I will have to check the birth, marriage, and death/burial of each person found in the GEDCOM files to determine where and if there is an error.

I became so frustrated with the research on this family that I laid it aside for several weeks, taking a break from research and blogging.

Life After the Wedding

When they married in Alscheid, Mathias was living in Merkholtz, less than 2 km away, and Magdalena and her parents were from the Eschweiler area, about a dozen kilometers from Alscheid.

Flag-map of Luxembourg
By Stasyan117 (Own work) [CC BY-SA 4.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0)%5D, via Wikimedia Commons
They spent their married life moving around the northern tip of Luxembourg (the tip of the shoe). On 15 November 1799, they were in Bavigne (Böwen in German and Béiwen in Luxembourgish) when their first child, a son named Wilhelm was born. I have not found this birth record, the information came from his 1824 marriage record.[4]

By the time the next child, a daughter named Elisabeth, joined the family on 11 February 1802 they were living in Goesdorf.[5] As you can see below, the handwriting on this birth record was a challenge. The surname was spelled GREISCH instead of GRISIUS and the record was in German.

1802 Birth Record of Elisabetha GREISCH [5]
They returned to the area of Alscheid for the births of the next three children. Frederich, my children’s 4th great-grandfather, was born on 9 March 1805[6] and his brother Jean was born on 16 November 1807.[7] Baby Jean died at nearly six months of age on 1 May 1808.[8] Another son, Pierre was born on 5 January 1810.[9] All three of these birth records were written completely by hand and in French. This example of Pierre’s birth was the first in the register for the year 1810.

1810 Birth Record of Pierre GRISIUS [9]
The family was residing in Schlindermanderscheid when the last three children were born. Margaretha was born on 22 September 1811.[10] Mathias’ father, Leonard GRITIUS, may have been living in Schlindermanderscheid before Mathias and Magdalena brought their family there as this is where his death took place on 30 December 1813.[11] Less than three weeks later another daughter, Catherine was born on 17 January 1814.[12] Anne Marie, the baby of the family, was born on 7 April 1816.[13]

Of the eight children Magdalena gave birth to, seven were living in 1816. Six-year-old Pierre died on 30 September 1816[14] and Anne Marie died on 21 January 1817[15] at the age of nine months. This left two sons and three daughters between the ages of three and eighteen.

The oldest son Wilhelm GRISIUS, who was living in Bavigne, married Catherine SCHNEIDER on 28 April 1824 in Mecher.[4] Mathias and Magdalena were living in Heffingen at the time (if I deciphered the place name correctly on the marriage record).

Mathias and Magdalena Settle in Hoscheid

Map Hoscheid
Map of Luxembourg with Hoscheid highlighted in orange, and the Diekirch canton in dark red. As of 2012, it is part of the Clervaux canton (the section at the tip), in the district of Diekirch.
By around 1830 the commune of Hoscheid had become the family’s residence. At first they were living in Hoscheid in the cowherd’s or Kühhirt‘s house where Mathias’ wife Magdalena SCHAETTER died on 1 December 1831.[16] She left Mathias with three daughters and son Frederich still at home. The oldest daughter Elisabetha was two months short of 30 years and still single. She most likely shared household duties with her younger sisters Margaretha (20) and Catherine (17).

At some point, after Magdalena died, the family went to live in der Dickt or in Houschterdéckt, also known in German as Hoscheiderdickt. This was likely between 1833 and 1836 when Mathias’ occupation changed from being a cowherd to working as a day laborer. By 1836 he was 60 years old and probably too old to be working as a cowherd.

The four remaining children were seen marrying in the commune of Hoscheid from 1833 to 1845.

  • Frederich GRISIUS married Catherina SCHAEFFER (1815-1898) on 3 July 1833 in Hoscheid. He and his father were living in Hoscheid.[17]
  • Cathérine Grisius married Michel MILLANG (1811-1875) on 7 September 1836 in Hoscheid. She and her father were living in der Dickt.[12]
  • Elisabetha Grisius married Adam KLEESEN (1799-1858) on 18 January 1843 in Hoscheid. She and her father were living in der Dickt.[18]
  • Margaretha Grisius married Jean PEIFFER (1818-1880) on 12 June 1845 in Heffingen. She and her father were living in der Dickt.[19]

Almost six months after the last of the GRISIUS children married they lost their oldest brother Wilhelm who died on 7 December 1845 in Bavigne.[20]

Eleven months later Mathias GRISIUS died at eight in the evening of 27 October 1846 in Hoscheiderdickt at the age of 70. His son-in-law Adam KLEESEN, who had been living in the GRISIUS household in 1843, reported his death.[2]

Elisabetha, the oldest daughter, had only been married four years when she died on 17 March 1847 in Hoscheiderdickt at the age of 45. Like her father, she died in a house called Theis.[21]

Five years later, Frederich GRISIUS, 47 years old and the oldest living child, died on 16 December 1852 in Hoscheiderdickt.[22] He left a wife, seven children, and two sisters, Margaretha and Catherine.

Margaretha died on 11 November 1875 in Heffingen.[23] By this time Catherine was living in Belgium, where her husband died three months earlier on 16 August 1875 in Seraing.[24] Catherine remained in Belgium and died in Flémalle (Wallonie) on 21 September 1887 at the age of 73.[25]

It’s good to be back to researching and blogging but I am even more happy to finally get this family put to bed. Some are not as easy as others. The GRISIUS-SCHAETTER family who lived in the tip of the Luxembourg shoe was one of these.

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Alscheid > Mariages 1797-1830 > image 3 of 202. 1798 Marriage Record No. 3 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-76075-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-L23:129624001,129711201 : accessed 18 September 2015) and 1798 Marriage Record No. 3 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-75966-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-L23:129624001,129711201 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[2] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1827-1850 > image 128 of 162. 1846 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-70030-5?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WR:129844501,129896301 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[3] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch< (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Oberwampach > Baptêmes 1716-1797, confirmations 1721-1789, tables 1715-1797 > image 54 of 118. 1775 Baptismal Record (left page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9W61?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-3TB%3A1500931501%2C1501091444 : accessed 15 May 2017).
[4] Luxembourg Civil Records, Mecher > Mariages 1824-1890 Décès 1797-1824, 1797-1876 > image 8 of 1496. 1824 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-185795-40?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-N38:130066801,130109301 : accessed 7 September 2015).
[5] Ibid., Goesdorf > Naissances 1797-1890 Mariages 1800-1809 > image 28 of 1227. 1802 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11028-26395-71?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-3TL:129625401,129841301 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[6] Ibid. Alscheid > Naissances 1797-1830 > image 62 of 207. 1805 Birth Record No. 8 (18 Ventôse An 13). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-76521-94?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2CB:1005941488 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[7] Ibid., Alscheid > Naissances 1797-1830 > image 77 of 207. 1807 Birth Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-77170-93?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-L2S:129624001,129782901 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[8] Ibid., Alscheid > Décès 1797-1849 > image 42 of 263. 1808 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-10999-93661-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-N36:129624001,129624002 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[9] Ibid., Alscheid > Naissances 1797-1830 > image 89 of 207. 1810 Birth Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12419-75496-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-L2S:129624001,129782901 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[10] Ibid., Bourscheid > Naissances 1797-1871 > image 203 of 1296. 1811 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12397-97469-18?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-VZ9:129628601,129837501 : accessed 16 September 2015).
[11] Ibid., Bourscheid > Décès 1797-1890 > image 131 of 1157. 1813 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12650-31277-32?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-N38:129628601,129626302 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[12] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 937 of 1491. 1836 Marriage Record No. 5. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67118-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 17 September 2015).
[13] Belgique, Liège, registres d’état civil, 1621-1914, database with images, FamilySearch (België Nationaal Archief, Brussels – Belgium National Archives, Brussels), Flémalle-Grande > Naissances, publications de mariage, mariages, décès 1886-1890 > image 197 of 567. 1887 Death Record No. 60. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159333-68305-82?cc=2138505&wc=SRG5-PTG:1008819301,1447928801 : accessed 17 September 2015).
[14] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bourscheid > Décès 1797-1890 > image 157 of 1157. 1816 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12650-35668-99?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-N38:129628601,129626302 : accessed 18 September 2015).
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[16] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1827-1850 > image 25 of 162. 1831 Death Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-74010-45?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WR:129844501,129896301 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[17] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 841 of 1491. 1833 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57155-81?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[18] Ibid., Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1063 of 1491. 1843 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57228-83?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[19] Ibid., Heffingen > Mariages 1796-1890 > image 274 of 544. 1845 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11015-90138-86?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-PTG:129687801,129719801 : accessed 16 September 2015).
[20] Ibid., Mecher > Mariages 1824-1890 Décès 1797-1824, 1797-1876 > image 1137 of 1496. 1845 Death Record No. 38. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-186060-72?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-N38:130066801,130109301 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[21] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1827-1850 > image 134 of 162. 1847 Death Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-73256-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WR:129844501,129896301 : accessed 18 September 2015).
[22] Ibid., Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 15 of 296. 1852 Death Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-64957-16?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B8:n401754830 : accessed 09 Apr 2013).
[23] Ibid., Boevange-Clervaux > Décès 1856-1890 > image 238 of 400. 1875 Death Record No. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12346-163233-63?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-FM9:129627001,129627002 : accessed 6 September 2015).
[24] Belgium Civil Records, Seraing > Naissances, publications de mariage, mariages, décès 1875-1876 > image 563 of 1299. 1875 Death Record No. 469. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159328-819029-16?cc=2138505&wc=SRG8-PTL:1008528601,1448458901 : accessed 17 September 2015).
[25] Ibid., Flémalle-Grande > Naissances, publications de mariage, mariages, décès 1886-1890 > image 197 of 567. 1887 Death Record No. 60. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159333-68305-82?cc=2138505&wc=SRG5-PTG:1008819301,1447928801 : accessed 17 September 2015).

© 2017, copyright Cathy Meder-Dempsey. All rights reserved.

52 Ancestors: #19 The Heinrich GRISIUS Family of Hoscheid-Dickt

Week 19 (May 7-13) – There’s a Way: What ancestor found a way out of a sticky situation? You might also think of this in terms of transportation or migration.

Instead of an ancestor, I was the one who had to find a way out of a sticky situation. I think everyone has a family similar to the one I researched (again) this week. A family you keep coming back to but push away until later because of the amount of work required or not knowing where to look. There’s a way I usually do my research and there’s a way to take a short cut. I had to use both approaches before I could begin to write about this family.

I spent hours searching the census and civil records of Luxembourg for my husband’s great-great-grandfather Heinrich GRISIUS, his two wives, and thirteen children. This is my usual way of doing Luxembourg research as none of the records are indexed. You won’t find shaky leaves on Ancestry for records in Luxembourg. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t other sites that are helpful.

Rob Deltgen, who is well known to anyone researching families in Luxembourg, shares his work online. Rob’s site is the oldest and most visited genealogy site in Luxembourg and the short cut I used. [Access to the site is free but you need to register and login with a password.]

I went through the children and grandchildren of the GRISIUS family checking the dates and places Rob had with the online records at FamilySearch. Since Rob does not cite his sources online this is a good exercise in searching for records in browse only collections and comparing the information.

The reason I included grandchildren in this project was due to the time period. The GRISIUS chidren lived longer than the records are available on FamilySearch – 1922. The National Library of Luxembourg has the newspapers online. Obituaries may contain names of children but not always names of siblings. The grandchildren’s names make the search easier. But not all families published obituaries in the newspapers.

The GRISIUS-MANGERS and the GRISIUS-WECKERING Families

Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS was born 25 June 1839 in Hoscheid-Dickt, Commune of Hoscheid, Canton of Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. His parents were Frederique “Friedrich” GRISIUS (1805-1852) and Catherina SCHAEFFER (1815-1898). They named him Heinrich per his birth record.[1]

Heinrich married his first wife Marie MANGERS on 8 November 1860 in Wilwerwiltz in the canton of Wiltz.[2] Marie gave birth to four children:

  • Ch 1: Michel GRISIUS (1861-aft. 1900) born 19 September 1861 in Hoscheid-Dickt[3]
  • Ch 2: Anna Marie GRISIUS (1864-1921) born 3 March 1864 in Hoscheid-Dickt[4]
  • Ch 3: Cathérine GRISIUS (1866-1927) born 16 Jun 1866 in Hoscheid-Dickt[5]
  • Ch 4: Elisabeth GRISIUS (1870-1871) born 10 June 1870 in Hoscheid-Dickt[6]

Heinrich’s first wife Marie died on 2 January 1871.[7] Six days later the baby Elisabeth GRISIUS died on 8 January 1871.[8] Both deaths took place in Hoscheid-Dickt.

In December 1871 Heinrich, a widower, was seen on the census with his three young children: Michel 10, Anna Marie 7, and Cathérine 5. He did not have anyone in the household to help with the children.[9]

Heinrich waited a few more years before marrying again.  On 29 October 1874 he married Elisabeth WECKERING (1853-1905) in Hoscheid.[10]

Elisabeth was born 9 May 1853 in Hoscheid to Antoin WECKERING and Margaretha BERNARD. Her father was 72 years old and her mother 36 years old.[11] Her parents had been married 10 years and had buried 5 children during that time. Elisabeth was the only child of this couple to reach adulthood.

Elisabeth and Heinrich had nine children in 18 years:

  • Ch 5: Marguerite GRISIUS (1875-1913) born 28 August 1875 in Hoscheid-Dickt[12]
  • Ch 6: Nicolas GRISIUS (1877-1939) born 14 August 1877 in Hoscheid[13]
  • Ch 7: Cathérine GRISIUS (1879-1918) born 7 September 1879 in Hoscheid-Dickt[14]
  • Ch 8: Cathérine GRISIUS (1881-1938) born 25 December 1881 in Hoscheid-Dickt[15]
  • Ch 9: Mathieu GRISIUS (1883-aft 1912) born 5 December 1883 in Schlinder-Haut[16]
  • Ch 10: François GRISIUS (1885-1946) born 22 December 1885 in Hoscheid-Dickt[17]
  • Ch 11: Martin GRISIUS (1888-aft. 1900) born 15 August 1888 in Hoscheid-Dickt[18]
  • Ch 12: Léonard GRISIUS (1891-aft. 1923) born 2 March 1891 in Hoscheid-Dickt[19]
  • Ch 13: Nicolas GRISIUS (1893-aft.1934) born 22 September 1893 in Hoscheid-Dickt[20]

While Elisabeth was pregnant with her 6th child (Heinrich’s 10th) her stepdaughter Anna Marie was also pregnant and had to get married. Anna Marie married Michel BURGEN on 18 May 1885 in Hoscheid[21] and the first grandchild Anne BURGEN (1885-1937) was born on 10 July 1885.[22] Three more children were born to this couple and each time the child’s surname was spelled differently: Angelica Bürgen 1891, Georg “Joseph” Burghen 1899, and Susanna Birchen 1904.

Heinrich’s second daughter Cathérine GRISIUS married Albert MEYER (1863-1928) on 1 March 1889 in Bastendorf.[23] Their first child Marie was born on 31 December 1889 in Weidingen les Wiltz.[24] She was followed by (another) Marie 1893, Anne 1897, Elisabeth 1901, Michel 1904, Nicolas 1906 and Catharina 1908.

Heinrich and Elisabeth’s oldest daughter Marguerite married Dominique DONNER on 25 February 1895[25] in Hoscheid three weeks after giving birth to a son they named Henri after her father.[26]

Heinrich’s oldest child Michel GRISIUS married Elisabeth JAEGER on 31 January 1898 in Wiltz.[27] He was 36 and she was 47. It is not known if the couple remained in Wiltz were they were seen in the 1900 census. No children were found in that community and it is not very likely that his wife had a child at her late age.

To make things a bit more difficult Heinrich named three of his daughters Cathérine. On census listings they were all seen with the same first name.

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1 December 1885 Census[28]
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1 February 1887 Census[29]
Because of this naming pattern in the family it is important to read the marriage records closely to see which of the three daughters named Cathérine married which men. Marriage records include the dates and places of birth of the bride and groom making it easier to keep the girls apart.

The first daughter named Cathérine b. 1866 married in 1889 as seen above. The two others married in 1900 and 1902:

  • Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1879) married Nicolas KREMER (1875-1951) on 28 November 1900 in Bettendorf.[30] They were my husband’s great-grandparents.
  • Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1881) married Edouard DAUBACH (1880-1948) on 26 December 1902 in Hoscheid.[31]

Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS died on 14 October 1904 in Hoscheid-Dickt[32] and was followed by his wife Elisabeth “Elise” WECKERING four months later on 14 February 1905 in Hoscheid-Dickt.[33]

When Heinrich and Elisabeth died their six sons were not yet married. Marriages were found for all of them except Martin.

  • Nicolas GRISIUS married Susanne JACOBY on 6 January 1909 in Heiderscheid[34]
  • Mathieu GRISIUS married Susanne Cathérine SCHNEIDER 20 July 1909 in Boulaide[35]
  • François GRISIUS married Marie Sophie WIEGAND on 7 February 1911 in Diekirch[36]
  • Léonard GRISIUS married  Madeleine Susanne LEINENWEBER on 11 April 1913 in Wiltz[37]
  • Nicolas Grisius married Mathilde REUTER on 4 July 1920 in Bissen[38]

Before the last son married the two oldest daughters of Heinrich and Elisabeth died. Marguerite on 8 June 1913 in Luxemburg City[39] and Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1879) in childbirth on 19 April 1918 in Moestroff.[40]

It is not known when Heinrich’s oldest daughter Anna Marie GRISIUS died. She was last seen alive in November 1921 when her youngest child married.[41]

Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1866) died 3 October 1927 in Weidingen.[42]

Nicolas GRISIUS, the youngest child of this family, became a father on 28 February 1934.[43] It is not known how long he lived.

Cathérine GRISIUS (b. 1881) died before 31 May 1938, the date her son Marcel died. His obituary lists only his father and siblings.[44]

Nicolas GRISIUS died 26 March 1939 in Weidingen.[45]

François GRISIUS died 16 November 1946 in Bettendorf.[46]

The research on this family was time consuming but it was a good feeling to be able to work on a family with thirteen children and find that only one died at a very young age. Eleven of the twelve children married and had children giving Heinrich and Elisabeth 55 grandchildren.

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Hoscheid > Décès 1805-1850 > image 347 of 459. 1839 Birth Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11669-101564-78?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B4:857665358 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[2] Ibid, Wilwerwiltz > Naissances 1866-1890 Mariages 1797, 1800-1890 Décès 1797-1878 > image 797 of 1495. 1860 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12877-160577-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-7M9:130594601,130709301 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[3] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 107 of 1491. 1861 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-61502-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[4] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 134 of 1491. 1864 Birth Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-67185-68?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[5] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 154 of 1491. 1866 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-57908-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[6] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 197 of 1491. 1870 Birth Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-64621-87?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[7] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 159 of 296. 1871 Death Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-68304-33?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[8] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1851-1890 > image 160 of 296. 1871 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12341-68366-15?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-4WP:129844501,129625502 : accessed 7 May 2015).
[9] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Hoscheid > 1871 > image 41 of 350. Heinrich Grisius household no. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32381-14477-68?cc=2037957&wc=M5G9-T3Y:345858701,345869501 : accessed 7 May 2015). Note: see also images 40 and 42 for front and back matter.
[10] Civil records, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1238 of 1491. 1874 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-59490-61?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 29 of 1491. 1853 Birth Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-56798-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2B6:1412473990 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[12] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[13] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[14] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[15] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[16] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 242 of 1491. 1875 Birth Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63942-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[17] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 337 of 1491. 1885 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-58779-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[18] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 361 of 1491. 1888 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66072-80?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[19] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 361 of 1491. 1888 Birth Record No. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66072-80?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[20] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances, mariages, décès 1891-1894 > image 20 of 77. 1893 Birth Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11555-122015-89?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-N38:129844501,129717601 : accessed 5 May 2015).
[21] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 1298 of 1491. 1885 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-63143-2?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[22] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1851-1890 Mariages 1800-1890 Décès 1798-1826 > image 334 of 1491. 1885 Birth Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11672-66463-79?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-JWL:129844501,129973001 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[23] Ibid, Bastendorf > Mariages 1872-1890 > image 139 of 148. 1889 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-253277-35?cc=1709358&wc=9RYZ-DP8:129624201,129707601 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[24] Ibid, Wiltz > Naissances 1851-1890 > image 1463 of 1497. 1889 Birth Record No. 83.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12872-175490-50?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-BZ9:130592301,129857101 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[25] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 151 of 727. 1895 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32039-1287-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-3T5:129844501,130173601 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[26] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1895-1902 > image 2 of 59. 1895 Birth Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32047-20559-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-16V:129844501,129766201 : accessed 12 May 2015).
[27] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 4 of 657. 1898 Marriage Record No. 1. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32066-24778-38?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 8 May 2015).
[28] Census records, Hoscheid > 1885 > image 277 of 569. Grisius-Weckering household no. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32390-4185-22?cc=2037957&wc=M5GW-JWY:345858701,345873701 : accessed 6 May 2015). Note: see also images 276 and 278 for front and back matter.
[29] Ibid, Hoscheid > 1887 > image 256 of 336. Grisius-Weckering household no. 22. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32393-3866-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5G8-2NB:345858701,345875201 : accessed 6 May 2015). Note: see also images 255 and 257 for front and back matter.
[30] Civil records, Bettendorf > Naissances 1896-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 > image 530 of 777. 1900 Marriage Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32044-7034-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28W:n1332603780 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[31] Ibid, Hoscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Pièces de mariages 1903-1912 Décès 1895-1902 > image 193 of 727. 1902 Marriage Record No. 5.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32039-1200-44?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-3T5:129844501,130173601 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[32] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 9 of 123. 1904 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32048-4164-20?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[33] Ibid, Hoscheid > Décès 1903-1923 > image 12 of 123. 1905 Death Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32048-3847-7?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-SPN:129844501,129640001 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).
[34] Ibid, Heiderscheid > Naissances 1903-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 Décès 1895-1912 > image 384 of 713. 1909 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32042-2920-54?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-6TT:129701001,130456301 : accessed 8 May 2015).
[35] Ibid, Boulaide > Mariages 1895-1923 > image 94 of 174. 1909 Marriage Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32045-1627-70?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-L2H:129622701,129649201 : accessed 11 May 2015).
[36] Ibid, Diekirch > Mariages 1895-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 256 of 661. 1911 Marriage Record No. 7. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32038-645-83?cc=1709358&wc=9RTB-92Q:129628901,130043302 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[37] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 286 of 657. 1913 Marriage Record No. 7.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32066-25007-56?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[38] Ibid, Bissen > Naissances, mariages, décès 1895-1923 > image 507 of 789. 1920 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32024-7650-21?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-FMC:129623501,129971001 : accessed 10 May 2015).
[39] Ibid, Luxembourg > Décès 1911-1916 > image 324 of 820. 1913 Death Record No. 220. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32019-18141-64?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-HZ3:130045801,131216501 : accessed 9 May 2015).
[40] Ibid, Bettendorf > Naissances 1896-1923 Mariages 1895-1923 > image 530 of 777. 1900 Marriage Record No. 21. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32044-7034-74?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28W:n1332603780 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[41] Ibid, Wiltz > Mariages 1898-1923 Décès 1895-1902 > image 429 of 657. 1920 Marriage Record No. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32066-24712-78?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-ZNL:130592301,131024201 : accessed 12 May 2015).
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[43] Escher Tageblatt, digitized by the Bibliothèque nationale de Luxembourg, http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu (Verlag Editpress S.A., Esch-sur-Alzette), No. 56, Wednesday, March 7, 1934, p.7 column 4. Zivilstand der Gemeinde Wiltz, Susanne Pauline Grisius birth (http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=529645&search_terms=Gerberarbeiter%20#panel:pp|issue:529645|article:DTL101|query:Gerberarbeiter : accessed 12 May 2015).
[44] Ibid, No. 128, Thursday, June 2, 1938, p. 7 column 3. Avis mortuaire for Marcel Daubach. (http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=665119&search_terms=marcel%20daubach#panel:pp|issue:665119|article:DTL416|query:marcel daubach : accessed 10 May 2015).
[45] Ibid, No. 74, Tuesday, 28 March 1939, p. 7 column 4. Avis Mortuaire for Mathias Grisius. (http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=677443&search_terms=nicolas%20grisius#panel:pp|issue:677443|article:DTL403|query:nicolas grisius : accessed 8 May 2015).
[46] Luxemburger Wort, digitized by the Bibliothèque nationale de Luxembourg, http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu (Verlage der St-Paulus-Druckerei, Luxembourg), No. 322, Monday, November 18, 1946, p. 5 column 3. Avis Mortuaire for François Grisius. (http://www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=802390&search_terms=sophie%20wiegand#panel:pp|issue:802390|article:DTL633|query:sophie wiegand : accessed 11 May 2015).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS
Parents: Frederique “Friedrich” GRISIUS and Catharina SCHAEFFER
Spouse: Marie MANGERS and Elisabeth WECKERING(*)
Parents of spouse(*): Antoin WECKERING and Marguerite BERNARD
Whereabouts: Hoscheid-Dickt, Hoscheid, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 2nd great-grandparents

  1. Heinrich “Henri” GRISIUS and Elisabeth WECKERING
  2. Cathérine GRISIUS
  3. Franz KREMER
  4. Maisy KREMER
  5. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

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52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.