52 Ancestors: #5 Michael KOSTERS aka Michel SCHENTEN (1733-1813)

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1733 Baptismal Record of Michael Kosters [1]

26 Martius 1733 baptizatus est Michael filius legitimus Joannis Kosters et Catharina conjugum ex 7born Suscipientes fuerunt Michael Bourjans et Maria Franscisca Kosters ambo ex 7fontibus.

On 26 March 1733 was baptized Michael legitimate son of Joannis Kosters and Catharina, married, of Siebenborn. Godparents were Michael Bourjans and Maria Franscisca Kosters both of Siebenborn.[1]

simmerseptfontainesSeptfontaines is the name coined by the French for the town of Siebenborn, meaning “seven springs.” In early Latin records, the name of the town was often abbreviated to 7born. Today the town is known as Simmer in Luxembourgish and Simmern in German.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Michael KOSTERS aka Michel SCHENTEN
Parents: Joannis SCHENTEN and Catharina KOSTERS
Spouses: Anna Maria WEBER, Susanna GENTINGER, and Cathérine OVERECKEN(*)
Parents of Spouse(*): Unknown
Whereabouts: Septfontaines, Kehlen, and Gilsdorf, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandparents

1. Michel SCHENTEN and Cathérine OVERECK
2. Maria Catharina SCHENTEN
3. Johann “Jean” FABER
4. Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER
5. Johann Peter “Jean-Pierre” MEDER
6. Marcel Mathias MEDER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

SCHENTEN x KOSTERS

The baby Michael KOSTERS, son of Joannes SCHENTEN and Catharina KOSTERS, would later be known as Michel SCHENTEN. At the time of his birth, his family went by his mother’s surname – KOSTERS – instead of his father’s surname – SCHENTEN. Six children, born between 1729 and 1745, were found for the couple. Their first child had the name Schenten x Kosters written on his baptismal record while the rests had only Kosters.

At the age of 17 Michel lost his mother. Catharina KOSTERS died on 29 November 1750.[2] A little more than two years later Michel’s widowed father Joannes SCHENTEN died on 6 February 1753.[3] What happened to the family of six orphaned children between the ages of 8 and 24 years? This still needs to be researched.

While searching through marriage index cards for SCHENTEN and KOSTERS marriages, I discovered the sad story of Michel’s first (unknown) marriage.

Michel’s First Marriage

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1754 Marriage Index Card [4]
This index card for the marriage of Michael SCHENTEN and Anna Maria WEBERS shows he married on the 1st of January in 1754[4], less than a year before my children’s 5th great-grandfather’s first known marriage. Could he be the same man?
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1753 Betrothal Record [5]
Betrothed on 27 December 1753 Michael Schenten, legitimate son of Joannis Schenten and Maria Kosters, married, p:m: of Siebenboren and the virtuous Anna Maria Webers, legitimate daughter of Nicolai Webers and Maria, married, of Dondeling.[5]
The abbreviation p: m:  is for piae memoriae. This expression signals that the person or persons were already deceased at the time the record was recorded.
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1754 Marriage Entry in church book for the parish of Kehlen.[6]
1st January 1754 the marriage was contracted by the honest Michael SCHENTEN of Siebenborn and Anna Maria WEBER of Dondeling. Witnesses present were Dominico WEBER and Joanne Petro BERG both of Dondeling.[6]
Following the betrothal and marriage, Anna Maria became a godmother for her niece Anna Maria, daughter of Dominico WEBER and Catharina BIVER, on 10 May 1754 in Schoenberg.[7] Anna Maria died on 10 July 1754 in Dondelange.[8] Nine days later, her niece and godchild, Anna Maria WEBER also died. The baby’s entry follows Anna Maria’s death entry in the church register. Did the young bride and her niece die from the same cause?
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1754 Death entries for Anna Maria Weber and a 2 months old Anna Maria Weber both of Dondeling (Dondelange) [8]

The place of birth of the groom and the parents both being deceased match for Michel. The father’s name was the same but not the mother’s. Before rejecting it, I searched for children born to the couple. If they had children at the same time Michel and his first known wife were having children, then this would mean they were two different persons. I found no births. I checked deaths for the year 1754 and found the deaths of the godmother and her godchild. Dominico, the child’s father, and Anna Maria were siblings, both children of Nicolas and Maria Weber(s).

A Second Marriage for Michel

Four months later, on 10 November 1754, Michel married Susanne GENTINGER in Diekirch.[9][10] Susanne was born on 23 January 1731 in Gilsdorf.[11]

They had the following children.

  •  Joannes Jacobus was born and baptized on 14 August 1755 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Anna GENTINGER of Gilsdorf and Joes Jacobus GENTINGER of Diekirch.[12]
  • Petrus was born and baptized on 28 October 1757 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Petrus GLAIS and Maria THILL, both of Gilsdorf.[13]
  • Joannes Stephanus was born and baptized on 13 July 1763 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Joes Stephanus CHENTEN from Simer and Elisabetha MYERS of Gilsdorf.[14]
  • Jones was born and baptized on 22 November 1766 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Jones JUMKEM and  Anna DIEDERS, both of Gilsdorf. Note: Mother is seen with maiden name THIEL.[15]
  • Joannes was born and baptized on 31 March 1770 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Joannes DEYL and Susanna GLEIS, both of Gilsdorf.[16]
  • Susanne was born and baptized on 14 December 1773 in Gilsdorf. Her godparents were Reinerich WELTER and Susanna FOURNER, both of Gilsdorf.[17]

Note: I have not researched these children other than finding their baptismal records. The daughter Susanne and at least one of the sons named Jean (or a variation) married and had children.

Michel was once again widowed on 15 March 1775 when his second wife Susanne GENTINGER died in Gilsdorf.[18]

A Third Marriage for Michel

Michel did not wait long to remarry. No marriage record has been found. However, church records show Michel SCHENTEN and Cathérine OBERECKEN were a legitimate married couple having children from 1777 to 1787. I estimate their marriage at abt. 1776 (between 15 March 1775 and 4 April 1777).

Michel and Cathérine had the following children.

  • Joannes was born and baptized on 4 April 1777 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Joannes WEBER and Margaretha NEUBERG, both of Gilsdorf.[19] Joannes married first Susanne BRETZ (1767-1801), daughter of Dominique BRETZ and Susanne SPERES, on 9 April 1799 in Ettelbrück.[20] He married second Marguerite KAUFFMANN (1783-1843), daughter of Jean KAUFFMANN and Cathérine KLONS, on 30 November 1801 in Diekirch.[21] He died on 5 March 1844 in Bourscheid-Flébour.[22]
  • Petrus was born and baptized on 25 February 1780 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Petrus RUPPERT and Maria DIEDERICHS, both of Gilsdorf.[23]
  • Joes was born and baptized on 28 May 1782 in Gilsdorf. His godparents were Joannes SCHWIETZ and Anna Margaretha CLOOS, both of Gilsdorf.[24] UPDATE: He died on 8 March 1785 in Gilsdorf.[24a]
  • Maria Catharina “Margaretha” was born and baptized on 21 October 1784 in Gilsdorf. Her godparents were Antonius SCHROEDER and Maria Catharina SCHLOESSER, both of Gilsdorf.[25] She married Jean “Johann” FABER (1787-1864), son of Jacques “Jacobus” FABER and Elisabeth WOLTER, on 26 January 1813 in Diekirch.[26] Maria Catharina died on 27 March 1855 in Diekirch.[27]
  • Thomas UPDATE: was born about November 1787 and baptized on 30 October 1786 in Gilsdorf.[27a] He died on 22 May 1788 in Gilsdorf.[28]

Michel SCHENTEN died on 6 January 1813 in Gilsdorf.[29] His death record confirms his place of birth was Simmer, the Luxembourgish version of Septfontaines.

His widow Cathérine died six years later on 30 March 1819 in Gilsdorf. The death was reported by an acquaintance and a neighbor. They gave her age at time of death as 80.[30] This means Cathérine would have been born about 1738-1739. If this is correct, she was 48 at the time of the last child’s estimated birth.

Were the sons named Joes and Thomas the same person?

This question has been solved. They were two persons as seen in updates listed below.

Update: (12 February 2017) While working on the PREUSER children for my post on 17 February 2017, I found the birth record of the child named Thomas SCHENTEN. He was a year and a half when he died.

No birth record was found for the child named Thomas born about November 1787. The first name on the death record is in the gutter of the register making it difficult to decipher. The Latin text for his age is infans sesqui anni, which means half a year old infant. Could the person writing the Latin text have made an error and meant to write six years old? Or does the Latin text mean one and a half year old infant?

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1788 Death Record of a Schenten child. [28]

UPDATE (4 February 2017): While searching through the church records for deaths (of another family) I found the death record of a son of Michel SCHENTEN and his wife Catharina OBERECK named Joannes, three and a half years old. Joes born 28 May 1782 would have been almost three on 8 March 1782 when the child died. Joes is an abbreviation for Joannes. The person who wrote the entry likely miscalculated the age of the child.

If he did make an error the child Thomas could be the same as Joes who was born in 1782. Joes would have been six days short of six years when the child named Thomas died in May 1788. If the child who died in 1788 was in fact Joes, then my children’s 4th great-grandmother was the youngest child of Michel and Cathérine. Unfortunately the church records don’t include the ages of the parents at the time a child was born and baptized. As Cathérine died in 1819 at the age of 80 years she would have been 45 years old at the time of Maria Catharina’s birth in 1784.

Who were the parents of Michel’s third wife Cathérine?

No marriage record has been found for Michel and Cathérine. Her maiden name was found on the baptismal records of four children and on her death record. It was spelled several different ways. On her first two children’s baptismal records in 1777 and 1780 her name was spelled OBERHECK. In 1782 it was seen as EVERECK and in 1784 as OVERECKEN. In 1787 when her son “Thomas” died her maiden name was OBERRECKEN. In 1813 when her daughter Maria Catharina married it was OVERECKEN, the same as in 1784. This is because the name on the marriage record was likely copied from the bride’s birth record. Finally it was written as UBERRECKEN on her death record in 1819. The last cannot be considered as reliable as the information was given by an acquaintance and neighbor.

brickwallstextblackWas Cathérine born in Medernach as stated on her 1819 death record? The church records of Medernach are only available from 1786, too late for her baptismal record ca. 1738 to have been registered. Are the pre-1786 church records for baptized persons from Medernach in another town?

For now Cathérine’s date of birth and the names of her parents remain a mystery. Will one of my readers, familiar with Luxembourg records, hold the key to open the door in this brick wall?

UPDATE: (10 February 2017) I heard from Rob DELTGEN via email. The records of the parish of Medernach are lost! Church records on FamilySearch for Medernach are only for 1786-1807.

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Sources:
[1]
Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Septfontaines > Baptêmes 1622-1640, 1651-1735, mariages 1732-1737, sépultures 1720-1738 > image 165 of 181. 1733 Baptismal Record (right page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32461-17204-85?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-K65:1501152901,1501333730 : accessed 28 January 2017).

[2] Ibid., Septfontaines > Baptêmes 1735-1797, confirmations 1774-1791, mariages 1738-1797, sépultures 1738-1796 > image 144 of 210. 1750 Death Record (right page, entry 23). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9VG8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-2NP%3A1501152901%2C1501361592 : 9 January 2015).
[3] Ibid., Septfontaines > Baptêmes 1735-1797, confirmations 1774-1791, mariages 1738-1797, sépultures 1738-1796 > image 145 of 210. 1753 Death Record (left page, 9th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9KLB?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-2NP%3A1501152901%2C1501361592 : 9 January 2015).
[4] Ibid., Schoenberg > Tables des mariages 1724-1802 Burton-Z (index organisée par l’époux) > image 586 of 797. 1754 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-S33K?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-PTY%3A1501137301%2C1501137302 : 9 January 2015).
[5] Ibid., Schoenberg > Mariages 1724-1755 — fondations et anniversaires 1723-1794 — registre aux dîmes 1770-1794 > image 69 of 261. 1853 Bethrothal entry in church records (right page, bottom entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-3C3?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-HZH%3A1501137301%2C1501398002 : 9 January 2015).
[6] Ibid., Schoenberg > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1754-1759, 1778-1793 > image 7 of 329. 1754 Marriage Record (right page, first entry).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9VRM?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-K6J%3A1501137301%2C1501248302 : 9 January 2015).
[7] Ibid., Schoenberg > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1754-1759, 1778-1793 > image 4 of 329. 1754 Baptismal Record (left page, 2nd to last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9KJR?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-K6J%3A1501137301%2C1501248302 : 9 January 2015).
[8] Ibid., Schoenberg > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1754-1759, 1778-1793 > image 9 of 329. 1754 Death Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9V12?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-K6J%3A1501137301%2C1501248302 : 9 January 2015).
[9] Ibid., Diekirch > Tables des mariages 1700-1798 (index organisée par l’époux) > image 842 of 1195. 1754 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9ZKY?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-DPV%3A1500890501%2C1501181502 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[10] Ibid., Diekirch >Mariages 1743-1794 > image 16 of 122. 1754 Marriage Record (left page, third entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MQ1B?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[11] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1623-1743 Mariages 1698-1741, 1743-1794 Sépultures 1698-1729 > image 185 of 240. 1731 Baptismal Record (left page, 1st entry for 1731). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-M7QR?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[12] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 66 of 373. 1755 Baptismal Record (right page 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHGV?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[13] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 78 of 373. 1757 Baptismal Record (right page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LHBL?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[14] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 110 of 373. 1763 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-LH6D?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : 9 January 2015).
[15] Ibid., Diekirch Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 134 of 373. 1766 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LHTW?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[16] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 158 of 373. 1770 Baptismal Record (left page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LH9F?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[17] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 182 of 373. 1773 Baptismal Record (left page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LHZB?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : 9 January 2015).
[18] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 43 of 140. 1775 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LHTV?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : 9 January 2015).
[19] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 204 of 373. 1777 Baptismal Record (left page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LCV4?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[20] Ibid., Diekirch > Tables des mariages 1700-1798 (index organisée par l’époux) > image 844 of 1195. 20 germinal an VII Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9Z9T?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-DPV%3A1500890501%2C1501181502 : accessed 28 January 2017).
[21] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1797-1805, mariages, décès 1797-1807 > image 59 of 133. 1801 Marriage Record (left page, 1st entry).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-984W?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-1XS%3A1500890501%2C1500998368 : acessed 3 February 2017).
[22] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bourscheid > Décès 1797-1890 > image 479 of 1157. 1844 Death Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X929-9GH?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-N38%3A129628601%2C129626302 : 17 July 2014).
[23] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 228 of 373
. 1780 Baptismal Record (right page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LZ3F?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : acessed 28 January 2017).
[24] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789  > image 258 of 373. 1782 Birth Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LCRR?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : 9 January 2015).
[24a] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 88 of 140. 1785 Death Record (left page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LHGM?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : accessed 4 February 2017).
[25] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 289 of 373. 1784 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32421-8480-21?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[26] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 832 of 1492. 1813 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-99261-56?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[27] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 509 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170383-71?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[27a] LuxembourgChurch Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 316 of 373. 1786 Baptismal Record (left page, 2nd entry from bottom).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LCNS?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 12 Feb 2017).
[28] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 105 of 140. 1788 Death Record (right page, first entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LHNF?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : 9 January 2015).
[29] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1202 of 1493. 1813 Death Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-49235-53?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 April 2013).
[30] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1362 of 1493. 1819 Death Record No. (blank). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-50093-4?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 Apr 2013).

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52 Ancestors: #4 Jacques’ Paternal Line Goes Back to Adam

Jacques “Jacobus” FABER, son of Joannis FABER of Schoos (Mersch, Grand Duché de Luxembourg) married Elisabeth WOLTER, daughter of Jacobi WOLTER and Marie Elisabeth MEYERS, on 9 June 1767 in Diekirch.[1] The marriage record shows he was the son of Joannis FABER of Schoos.

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1767 Marriage Record (left page, 2nd entry).[1]
Elisabeth was born and baptized on 28 June 1746 in Diekirch. Her godparents were Mathias Blohm and Elisabetha Böhm (Bladt), both of Diekirch.[2]

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1746 Baptismal Record. [2]
Jacques, who worked as a tailor (tailleur, Schneider), died in Diekirch on 16 February 1811 at 10 o’clock in the evening.[3] When his widow declared his death, she was incorrectly listed as being 49 years old. She was actually going on 65.

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1811 Death Record [3]
Elisabeth died on 25 December 1824 at one in the afternoon at her home in Diekirch.[4] Although she was 78 years old her age at death was listed as 84. The informants were her youngest son Johann FABER and Henri LEISEN, a neighbor.

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1824 Death Record [4]
Jacques and Elisabeth had the following children.

  1. Jacques FABER, born and baptized on 24 June 1768 in Diekirch. His godparents were Jacques REDING and Marie KESSELER, both of Diekirch.[5]. Jacques married Ursula HOSCHEID, daughter of Sébastien HOSCHEID and Ursula SPIEGEL, on 22 October 1799 in Ettelbrück. [6], [7] Ursule was born on 4 December 1755 in Erpeldange (Diekirch). Her date of birth and Jacques’ were found on the marriage record. She was 44 years old at the time of their marriage, nearly 13 years older than Jacques. No children have been found for this couple. Jacques died on 26 January 1812 in Diekirch. His widowed mother, age 70 (she was 65), declared his death. He was listed as the husband of Elisabeth WOLTER – an error – this was his mother’s name.[8] She could not read and write and likely did not notice the mistake. Further information on his wife Ursula HOSCHEID has not been located. Death records in Diekirch were checked from the time of marriage until 1853. § End of line.
  2. Cathérine FABER was born and baptized on 20 February 1772 in Diekirch. Her godparents were Guillaume SCHILTZ and Cathérine HERMAN, both of Diekirch.[9] No record of marriage or death has been found for Catharina. § End of line.
  3. Mathias FABER was born and baptized on 16 April 1775 in Diekirch. His godparents were Mathieu DRESCH and Marguerite CONRADT, both of Diekirch.[10] Mathias married Anne Cathérine SEHLEN, daughter of Henri SEHLEN and Susanne PROMMENSCHENCKEL, on 7 January 1805 in Diekirch.[11],[12] She was the widow of Jean MEYER who died 15 October 1803 in Diekirch. Anne was born on 9 September 1772 in Diekirch. She died on 11 May 1823 in Diekirch. Mathias died on 7 November 1847 in Diekirch.[13] Mathias and Anne Cathérine had three known sons and the line continued.
  4. Petrus FABER was born and baptized on 6 January 1779 in Diekirch. His godparents were Pierre SCHER/SAUER of Diekirch and Marie JUTTEL, of Diekirch.[14] He died on 23 August 1781 in Diekirch at the age of two and a half years.[15] § End of line.
  5. Wilhelmus FABER was born and baptized on 1 September 1782 in Diekirch. His godparents were Guillaume JORIS, of “Schinecken”or SCHOENECKEN and Anne Marie WAGENER, of Diekirch.[16] He died on 17 October 1786 in Diekirch at the age of four.[17] § End of line.
  6. Jean “Johann” FABER was born and baptized on 4 July 1787 in Diekirch. His godparents were Joannes FOOS and Catharina WOLTER, both of Diekirch.[18] He worked as day laborer (Taglöhner) on 16 February 1811 in Diekirch at the time of his father’s death.[1] Jean married Maria Catharina “Margaretha” SCHENTEN, daughter of Michel SCHENTEN and Cathérine OVERECKEN or UBERRECKEN, on 26 January 1813 in Diekirch.[19] Margaretha was born and baptized on 21 October 1784 in Gilsdorf. Her godparents were Antonius SCHROEDER and Maria Catharina SCHLOESSER, both of Gilsdorf.[20] She died on 27 March 1855 in Diekirch.[21] He died on 10 February 1864 in Diekirch.[22] This line continues as Johann FABER and Maria Catharina SCHENTEN were my children’s 4th great-grandparents.
Who Were the Parents of Jacques “Jacobus” FABER?

Jean “Joannis” FABER and his wife Anne Marie “Anna Maria” HUNTGES are found as the parents of my children’s 5th great-grandfather Jacques FABER (1741-1811) in several online GEDCOM files. Jacques’ marriage record confirms the name of his father as Joannis FABER of Schoos.[1] But was Joannis FABER of Schoos the same man as Jean FABER who was married to Anne Marie HUNTGES?

The answer to this question was supposed to be easy. Find Jacques’ birth/baptismal record with the names of his parents. The first difficulty was where to find the church records for the village of Schoos for the time period around 1741. Schoos belongs to commune of Fischbach in the canton of Mersch in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg per FamilySeach’s List of communes of Luxembourg. The baptisms in the church records of Fischbach begin with 1742 – possibly too late for Jacques’ baptism. I took it one step up and looked at the church records of Mersch were I found baptisms as early as 1675. I searched through the years 1735-1742, found children born in Schoos, but none with the surname FABER.

I then took a different approach. Confirm the information listed in the GEDCOMs for the couple seen as Jacques’ parents. Other children seen as theirs were born in Erpeldange where I looked for records.

I found baptismal records for five of six children of this couple. Two of the children are in the GEDCOM files but not attached to parents (the owners of the databases will be contacted). The baptismal records consistently give the names of the parents as Jois (4) or Joannis (1) FABER and Anna Maria, a married couple from Erpeldange. The children were born in 1728, 1732[23], 1736[24], 1739[25], 1744[26], and 1746[27] in Erpeldange. For the child born around 1728 no baptismal record was found – records appear to be missing from 1728-1731. However, marriage records of these children were also consulted. The son born abt. 1728 is seen as the legitimate child of Jois FABER majeri of Erpeldange in 1759.[28] The daughter born in 1732 is seen as the legitimate daughter of Joannis FABER of Erpeldange in 1753.[29]

There is a gap 5 years gap in the list of children between 1739 and 1744 which Jacques could fit in. However, Jacques’ marriage record shows he was the legitimate son of Joannis FABER of Schoos.

The FABER-HUNTGES family appears to have lived in Erpeldange from 1732 to 1746 when children’s baptisms were performed, in 1753 and 1759 when a son and a daughter married, and in 1780 when Anna Maria, wife of Jois FABER, died.[30]

Which FABER Family Lived in Schoos?

Is it possible the family lived for a short time in Schoos? I again checked the GEDCOMS with Luxembourgish families, this time for any FABER children born in Schoos. I found two candidates: Elizabeth b. abt. 1736 and Paul born abt. 1737 or 1742, both in Schoos. Marriages for both of these persons were checked as marriage dates and places were given.

Paul’s 1765 marriage in Consdorf lists father as Joannis FABER of Schoos.[31] Elizabeth’s first marriage in 1772 in Obermertzig lists father Joannis FABER and mother Margaretha THOMES.[32] Her second marriage in 1779 in Feulen lists the name of her deceased husband, confirming the 1772 marriage, but does not list parents.[33]

With the names of two FABER children born in Schoos I went back to the Mersch church records and searched again from 1734-1745 for these children paying close attention to all surnames listed in the entries as I now had a possible maiden name for the mother.

On 28 January 1735 a child named Paulus was baptized, his parents were Joannis and Margaretha THOMMES of Schoos.[34] On 23 September 1736 a child named Elisabetha was baptized, her parents were Joannis and Margaritha ADAM sive (or) THOMMES of Schoos.[35] Then on 29 Aug 1739 a child named Jacobus was baptzed, his parents were Joannis ADAM sive (or) THOMMES and Margaritha, both of Schoos.[36] No other children were found. [The Latin word sive means or – the family was know by the name ADAM or THOMMES.]

My next step was to check for a marriage for Joannis and Margaritha. There are index cards with marriages found in the church records in Luxembourg for most towns (online, browse only). I checked Mersch and found:[37]

1734joannesadamandmargaritamarriageThe entry for the marriage does not contain any more information than seen on the card.[38] Margaritha was the widow of Bernardus THOMMES. I found two children born to Bernardus and Margaritha in 1730[39] and 1732[40]. They were Joannes THOMMES and Maria Catharina THOMMES, half-siblings to Jacques.

No children were found for the years between 1724 and 1729. I looked for the Thommes surname only. Another look through for parents with the first names Bernardus and Margaritha could turn up the use of a different surname or house name as seen with the ADAM-THOMMES couple. A marriage in 1724 for Bernardus THOMMES shows he married a widowed woman named Anna, widow of Richard MÜLLER.[41] Further research will have to be done to determine if Anna is the same person as Margaritha. If so, then the Muller couple’s marriage will need to be found to determine the maiden name of Margaretha THOMMES, mother of Jacques.

Paulus, Elisabetha, and Jacobus were children of Joannis ADAM and Margaritha [maiden name unknown] THOMMES. No death records were found for Joannis and Margaritha. It is not known when they died or if one of them remarried. Why the children went by the surname FABER at the time of their marriages and during the rest of their lives is unknown.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Jacques FABER aka Jacobus THOMMES
Parents:  Joannis ADAM and Margaritha THOMMES
Spouse: Elisabeth WOLTER
Parents of Spouse: Jacobi WELTER and Marie Elisabeth MEYERS
Whereabouts: Schoos and Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandfather

1. Jacques FABER aka Jacques THOMMES
2. Jean “Johann” FABER
3. Johann “Jean” FABER
4. Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER
5. Johann Peter “Jean-Pierre” MEDER
6. Marcel Mathias MEDER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

Does Jacques’ Paternal Line Go Back to Adam?

I changed the title of this post several times while working on it. It started out as: The Faber-Wolter Family of Diekirch. Then the question came up: Who Were the Parents of Jacques “Jacobus” Faber? And what I found led to more questions and: A Proof Argument of the Parentage of Jacques Faber.

It was an exhaustive search, but, was this also exhaustive research? Do the records I found prove Jacques “Jacobus” FABER’s parents were Joannis ADAM aka THOMMES aka FABER and Margaritha THOMMES?

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794  > image 31 of 122. 1767 Marriage Record (left page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-MWLK?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : accessed 26 Dec 2016).
[2] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 20 of 373. 1746 Baptismal Record (right page, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LCD8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 26 Dec 2016).
[3] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1152 of 1493. 1811 Death Record No. 7 (at age 71). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-51221-90?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 Apr 2013).
[4] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1488 of 1493. 1824 Death Record No. 36 (age 84). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-49618-42?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ND:n1913802954 : accessed 11 Apr 2013).
[5] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 145 of 373. 1768 Baptismal Record (right page, 2nd entry from bottom).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHQQ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 Dec 2016).
[6] Luxembourg CIvil Records, Ettelbruck > Naissances 1885-1890 Mariages 1796-1844 > image 217 of 1505. 1799 Marriage Record (right page, first part). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XL9-Y7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-FM9%3A129625001%2C130529102 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[7] Ibid., Ettelbruck > Naissances 1885-1890 Mariages 1796-1844 > image 217 of 1505. 1799 Marriage Record (left page, second part).
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XL9-Y7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-FM9%3A129625001%2C130529102 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[8] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 1175 of 1493. 1812 Death Record No. 8 (age 50). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68G9-TL7?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-929%3A129628901%2C129848701 : 17 July 2014).
[9] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 169 of 373. 1772 Baptismal Record (right page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LHFF?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 Dec 2016).
[10] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 191 of 373. 1775 Baptismal Record (left page, 2nd entry from bottom).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-LH89?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[11] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 97 of 139. 1805 Marriage Record (right page, bottom, part 1). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9ZV4?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-16G%3A1500890501%2C1500965134 : accessed 28 December 2016),.
[12] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 98 of 139. 1805 Marriage Record (left page, top, part 2).
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-98N3?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-16G%3A1500890501%2C1500965134 : accessed 28 December 2016).
[13] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 382 of 1358. 1847 Death Record No. 51. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XY7-YRT?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL%3A129628901%2C129628902 : accessed 29 December 2016).
[14] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789  > image 215 of 373. 1779 Baptismal Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-LC1M?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[15] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 65 of 140. 1781 Death Record (left page, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHLM?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : accessed 27 December 2016).
[16] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 260 of 373. 1782 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LZWM?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : 9 January 2015).
[17] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 89 of 140. 1786 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LH6P?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : accessed 21 Jan 2017).
[18] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 325 of 373. 1787 Baptism Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32421-8957-8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[19] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 832 of 1492. 1813 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-99261-56?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[20] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 289 of 373. 1784 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32421-8480-21?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[21] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 509 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170383-71?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[22] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 694 of 1358. 1864 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-162865-71?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 4 April 2013).
[23] Luxembourg Church Records, Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 145 of 240. 1732 Baptismal Record (left page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M72Y?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[24] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 146 of 240. 1736 Baptismal Record (right page, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WM-M72W?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[25] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1647-1664, 1672-1743, mariages 1698-1741, sépultures 1698-1729 > image 147 of 240. 1739 Baptismal Record (right page, 6th entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-MQGH?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B8B%3A1500890501%2C1500890502 : 9 January 2015).
[26] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 8 of 373. 1744 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-LCQ2?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 23 January 2017).
[27] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 19 of 373. 1746 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-LCJ3?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL%3A1500890501%2C1500918030 : accessed 23 January 2017).
[28] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794 > image 21 of 122. 1759 Marriage Record (left page, 3rd entry).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-MQTL?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : 9 January 2015).
[29] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1743-1794 > image 13 of 122. 1753 Marriage Record (left page, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-MQK6?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-B87%3A1500890501%2C1500891002 : 9 January 2015).
[30] Ibid., Diekirch > Sépultures 1743-1793 > image 57 of 140. 1780 Death Record (left page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-LHR5?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-6Y7%3A1500890501%2C1500929176 : 9 January 2015). Note: the maiden name seen is Holsen not Huntges.
[31] Ibid., Consdorf > Baptêmes 1719-1782, confirmations 1738-1792, mariages 1726-1782, sépultures 1726-1781 > image 197 of 279. 1765 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WM-9C8Q?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-44S%3A1500922601%2C1501087728 : 9 January 2015).
[32] Ibid., Feulen > Tables des mariages 1702-1794 Mergen-Z (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 118 of 329. 1772 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9J62?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-J44%3A1500965489%2C1501257326 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[33] Ibid., Feulen > Tables des mariages 1702-1794 Mergen-Z (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 119 of 329. 1779 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9JBC?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-J44%3A1500965489%2C1501257326 : accessed 27  January 2017).
[34] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 60 of 280. 1735 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9SFJ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[35] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 66 of 280. 1736 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-9SFQ?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[36] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 74 of 280. 1739 Baptismal Record (right page, last entry).(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9SJ6?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[37] Ibid., Mersch > Tables des mariages 1713-1797 A-Scharber (index organisée par l’époux) > image 7 of 1579. 1734 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-S3MR?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-JWP%3A1500963301%2C1501135402 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[38] Ibid., Mersch > Mariages 1717-1749 > image 27 of 58. 1734 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-9S22?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-TQ9%3A1500963301%2C1501079882 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[39] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 48 of 280. 1730 Baptismal Record (left page, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-9SJV?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[40] Ibid., Mersch > Baptêmes 1717-1772 > image 53 of 280. 1732 Baptismal Record (left page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-9S26?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T38%3A1500963301%2C1500963302 : accessed 27 January 2017).
[41] Ibid., Mersch > Tables des mariages 1713-1797 Scharber-Z (index organisée par l’époux) > image 276 of 542. 1724 Marriage Index Car. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-SV4?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-T3D%3A1500963301%2C1501142620 : accessed 27 Jan 2017).

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52 Ancestors: #28 Tour de Genealogie and the FABER-SCHENTEN Family

Week 28 (July 9-15) – Road Trip: Any epic “road trips” in your family tree? Which ancestor do you want to take a road trip to go research?

Tour de Genealogie

Very often while riding our racing bikes through Luxembourg we’ve rolled through towns our ancestors lived in. This week we participated in the 6 Days Lull Gillen biking event. It was the 20th edition of the event organized by our cycling club LGB or “Le Guidon” of Bertrange (Bartreng in Luxembourgish, Bartringen in German), a town where many of my husband’s ancestors lived. The route scheduled for Thursday had us stopping at a control point in Septfontaines, also known as Simmer in Luxembourgish. Since this town fits into the history of this week’s family I had my husband take a photo of the town sign and the LGB control point sign.

septfontainesOn a side note: My matrilineal line springs (pun intended) from Septfontaines.

The FABER-SCHENTEN Family

Maria Catharina SCHENTEN was born and baptized Maria Catharina on 21 October 1784 in Gilsdorf. She was the daughter of Michel SCHENTEN and Catharina OVERECKEN. Her godparents were Antonius SCHROEDER and Maria Catharina SCHLOESSER, both of Gilsdorf.[1] Maria Catharina’s father Michel was born and baptized in 1733 in the town we rode through last Thursday, Septfontaines.

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1784 Baptismal Record [1]
Jean FABER was born and baptized Joannes on 4 July 1787 in Diekirch. He was the son of Jacques FABER and Elisabeth WOLTER. His godparents were Joannes FOOS and Catharina WOLTER, both of Diekirch.[2]

1787baptism
1787 Baptismal Record [2]
On 26 January 1813 in Diekirch at 10 o’clock in the morning Jean FABER and Marie Catherine (as she was seen in the marriage record written in French) SCHENTEN were married by Jean SCHOLTES, a civil servant. The groom’s father was deceased and his mother was present at the marriage.  The bride’s father was also deceased and her mother was present. The marriage had been “published” on the 10th and the 17th of January. The four witnesses to the marriage were not related (ni parents ni alliés) to the bridal couple. All three ladies present could not read or write: the bride, the bride’s mother and the groom’s mother.[3]

When Jean and Marie Catherine married the bride was about six months pregnant. Three months after their marriage, on 25 April 1813 at 10 o’clock in the evening, a son named Jean was born to the couple in Diekirch. When the father made his appearance at the city hall at 10 o’clock the next morning he gave the name of the mother as Marguerite SCHENTEN.[4]

Marie Catherine, Marguerite/Margaretha, or Catherine/Catharina SCHENTEN

Depending on the time period, records in Luxembourg may be in French or German and first names can vary. However Marie Catherine is not the French version of Margaretha! My first thought was, this was a different couple. A closer examination of the signature of the father on the birth record and of the groom on the marriage record shows they were the same man.

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Signatures

The “mistake” would be made for the next three children: Anne Marie, Michel, and Andreas. Only their 5th child Anton would have the mother listed as Catherine. When the marriage records of three of the sons of this couple were drawn up the civil servants used the names of the parents as seen on the children’s birth records. Jean and Andreas had Margaretha and Anton had Catherine as the mother’s name. When son Andreas married, his brother Anton was a witness and named as a brother. When son Anton married, his brother Jean was a witness and named as a brother. When son Jean married his brothers Andreas and Anton were too young to be witnesses. In the six census records from 1843 through 1852 for this family the mother was always seen as Catherine. When she died in 1855 her name was listed as Catharina on her death record.

The entire genealogy of the town of Diekirch has been researched and published by Rob Deltgen for the years 1796 to 1923 in his book Komplettes Familienbuch der Gemeinde 1796-1923. I am confident all persons have been accounted for in the town for the time period the FABER-SCHENTEN family lived there and Jean’s wife was Maria Catharina also known as Margaretha.

For some reason Maria Catharina used the name Margaretha when she was a young bride. Was it also the name she was known by when she was still living at home with her mother who was also a Catherine?

The children of Jean and Catharina aka Margaretha

As mentioned earlier the first born child was Jean, my husband’s 2nd great-grandfather. These are the five known children (all events took place in Diekirch):

  • Jean, born 25 April 1813[4], married Maria LORENTZ on 8 July 1841[5], and died 26 April 1873[6]
  • Anne Marie, born 31 December 1815[7] No marriage or death record has been found for this child. Did she go to work as a servant in another town or even country?
  • Michel, born 21 April 1819[8] and died 20 February 1828[9]
  • Andreas, born 8 November 1822[10], married Marie KNEIP on 13 December 1848[11], and died 20 March 1891[12]
  • Anton, born 27 November 1825[13], married Margaretha KNEIP on 28 September 1853[14], and died 2 April 1866[15]

The confusion caused by the mother’s name continued in the next generation. As seen above sons Andreas and Anton married KNEIP sisters. As the records are so detailed this normally would not cause a problem. However in the case of Andreas’ wife Marie she was seen in the birth records of her 10 children as Marie (4), Margaretha (5) and Magdalena (1). I had to do a lot of cross referencing with marriage records of the children to be sure there wasn’t an error in the name of the father!

The Family in the Census

The Luxembourg census images at FamilySearch begin in 1843. They also help to show there was only one FABER-SCHENTEN family. By 1843 Jean and Catharina’s oldest son, young Jean, was married and only Andreas and Anton were living at home in 1843[16], 1846[17], and 1847[18]. By 1849 Andreas had married and Anton was alone with his parents in 1849[19], 1851[20], and 1852[21].

Catharina SCHENTEN died on 27 March 1855[22]. Her widowed husband Jean FABER was in the household of his son Andreas in 1855[23]. In 1858 neither Jean nor Andreas and his family have been located. The 1858 census did not have a control list and it is possible I missed them while viewing the 635 images. In 1861[24] Jean was with his son Andreas and his family.

Jean FABER died on 10 February 1864[25]. His son Andreas was the informant. Jean was survived by his three sons and fourteen grandchildren. As nothing is known of his daughter Anne Marie FABER I left her out of this count. She may have married and had children we do not know of, or she may have died young like her brother Michel.

Although most birth, marriage and death records for this family have been found, there are still questions which need to be answered. Genealogy is never done.

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 289 of 373. 1784 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32421-8480-21?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[2] Ibid., Diekirch > Baptêmes 1743-1790, confirmations 1768-1789 > image 325 of 373. 1787 Baptism Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32421-8957-8?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-ZNL:1500890501,1500918030 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[3] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1793-1923 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 832 of 1492. 1813 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-99261-56?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[4] Ibid., Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1141 of 1493. 1813 Birth Record No. 35. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-125930-69?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N5:n983817566 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[5] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1879-1890 Mariages 1796-1842 > image 1461 of 1492. 1841 Marriage Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11618-102229-19?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2N2:1627336735 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[6] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 970 of 1358. 1873 Death Record No. 27. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-165974-79?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 01 Apr 2013).
[7] Ibid, Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1227 of 1493. 1815 Birth Record No. 116. ((https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-124835-69?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-W38:129628901,130575701 : accessed 18 March 2010).
[8] Ibid., Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1343 of 1493. 1819 Birth Record No. (not numbered). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-124164-95?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-W38:129628901,130575701 : accessed 18 March 2010).
[9] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 50 of 1358. 1828 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-169843-75?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 17 August 2011).
[10] Ibid., Diekirch > Tables décennales 1803-1892 Naissances, mariages, décès 1797-1800 Naissances 1800-1823 > image 1464 of 1493. 1822 Birth Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11030-123681-65?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-W38:129628901,130575701 : accessed 18 March 2010).
[11] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 122 of 1493. 1848 Marriage Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-50270-3?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-929:129628901,129848701 : accessed 10 July 2015).
[12] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances, mariages, décès 1891-1894 > image 232 of 332. 1891 Death Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11693-105328-65?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-3TY:129628901,129717601 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[13] Ibid., Diekirch > Naissances 1823 > image 67 of 1507. 1825 Birth Record No. 63. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11681-34820-6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY4-BZ9:129628901,130131601 : accessed 18 March 2010).
[14] Ibid., Diekirch > Mariages 1843-1890 Décès 1797-1824 > image 254 of 1493. 1853 Marriage Record No. 24. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12052-50405-0?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-929:129628901,129848701 : accessed 11 July 2015).
[15] Ibid., Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 750 of 1358. 1866 Death Record No. 48. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-163826-82?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[16] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), <i>FamilySearch</i> (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Diekirch > 1843 > image 190 of 444. Faber-Schenten household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32349-23064-71?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-MJ4:345999901,345863501 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[17] Ibid., Diekirch > 1846 > image 55 of 347. Faber-Schenten household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32358-16200-25?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-82R:345999901,345858602 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[18] Ibid., Diekirch > 1847 > image 449 of 506. Faber-Schenten household No. 428. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32357-24586-35?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-7MB:345999901,345864101 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[19] Ibid., Diekirch > 1849 > image 380 of 504. Faber-Schenten household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32357-25894-28?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-44Q:345999901,345864801 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[20] Ibid., Diekirch > 1851 > image 391 of 601. Faber-Schenten household No. 435. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32368-2762-72?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-6Y3:345999901,345865601 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[21] Ibid., Diekirch > 1852 > image 494 of 551. Faber-Schenten household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32371-9456-59?cc=2037957&wc=M5LY-Y4T:345999901,345865501 : accessed 8 July 2015).
[22] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 509 of 1358. 1855 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-170383-71?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2NH:n538876208 : accessed 04 Apr 2013).
[23] Luxembourg Census, Diekirch > 1855 > image 259 of 534. Faber-Kneip household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32378-30026-39?cc=2037957&wc=M5GM-K6Y:345999901,345866501 : accessed 24 March 2015).
[24] Ibid., Diekirch > 1861 > image 556 of 646. Faber-Kneip household No. 92. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32381-10574-79?cc=2037957&wc=M5LY-16P:345999901,345867101 : accessed 7 July 2015).
[25] Luxembourg Civil Records, Diekirch > Décès 1825-1890 > image 694 of 1358. 1864 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-162865-71?cc=1709358&wc=9RYC-2NL:129628901,129628902 : accessed 4 April 2013).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Jean “Johann” FABER
Parents: Jacques FABER and Elisabeth WOLTER
Spouse: Maria Catharina “Margaretha” SCHENTEN
Parents of Spouse: Michel SCHENTEN and Catherine OVERECKEN
Whereabouts: Diekirch, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 3rd great-grandfather

1. Jean “Johann” FABER
2. Johann “Jean” FABER
3. Elisabetha “Elisabeth” “Elise” FABER
4. Johann Peter “Jean-Pierre” MEDER
5. Marcel Mathias MEDER
6. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

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