52 Ancestors: #17 Mathias Friederich dite Thivels and Maria Olsem of Dillingen

Sometimes I am amazed at the discoveries I make when I sit down to write about these ancestral couples. Of course this only happens when I do a new round of research to learn more about the couple, their children, their parents and siblings, and any other possible connections.

While working through this family group, I discovered the father of the nearly 20 years old Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS had not died in 1791 as believed. The discovery of his death record started an avalanche of records which I will work through when I do the next generation. You’ll get a tiny peek below.

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Mathias FRIEDERICH dite TIVELS
Parents: Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH and Catharina FEDERSPIEL
Spouse: Maria OLSEM
Parents of spouse: Martin HUNTGES aka Martin OLSEM and Margaretha MAY
Whereabouts: Dillingen, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 4th great-grandfather

1. Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS
2. Elisabeth FRIEDERICH
3. Anton KREMER
4. Nicolas KREMER
5. Franz “Fritz” KREMER
6. Marie Françoise “Maisy” KREMER
7. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

My children’s 4th great-grandmother Elisabeth FRIEDERICH was the daughter of Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS and Maria OLSEM. As seen in the post I wrote about her and her husband Nicolas KREMER, 52 Ancestors: #34 KREMER-FRIEDERICH Family – Using Substitutes to Tell Their Story, she was the only child of Mathias and Maria known to have grown to adulthood and marry. This is her parents’ story.

Mathias and Maria Marry in Wallendorf

The parish church of Wallendorf built in 1748. Photo credit: Egon Meder.

After the marriage banns had been read in Wallendorf and Bissen, and there being no objection to the marriage, a minor young man named Mathias FREDERICH and a young woman who was of age named Maria OLSEM were married on 7 February 1791 in the parish of Wallendorf. At the time Wallendorf was part of Luxembourg; after 1815 it became part of Germany.

Mathias was the legitimate son of Joannis FREDERICH, a farmer who was present, and the deceased Catharina FEDERSPIEL, both of Dillingen. Maria was the legitimate daughter of the deceased couple Martini OLSEM and Margaretha MAY of Colmar. Witnesses to the marriage were J.P. MAY from Bastendorf (could he have been a maternal uncle?) and Franciscus CONCEMIUS from Bettendorf. The groom, bride, and father of the groom left their mark while the two witnesses to the marriage signed their names. [Names are given as found in the marriage record.]

1791 Marriage Record of Mathias and Maria [1]

Mathias’ Parents

Mathias’ parents were Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH (1741-1811) and Catharina FEDERSPIEL (1746-1785). Catharina died on 30 November 1785 in Dillingen.[2] She left her husband Johann with three sons and a daughter between the ages of 2 and 15 years. Records for this family were found in Wallendorf-Pont and Beaufort.

Maria’s Parents

Maria’s parents were Martin HUNTGES also known as Martin OLSEM (1722-1782) and Margaretha MAY (1727-1789). They were the parents of six known children who carried the OLSEM surname and were born in Colmar between 1756-1773. When Martin OLSEM died on 13 October 1782 in Colmar and was buried in Berg,[3] he left his wife with five children at home. Their oldest son had married earlier in the year. Margaretha, Maria’s mother, saw her two oldest daughters marry before she died on 6 June 1789 in Colmar and was buried in Berg.[4] Maria was now the oldest unmarried child with a younger brother and sister.

The First Clue to an Error

1791 death entry in the parish register of Wallendorf [5]
Following the marriage of Mathias and Maria in 1791, a Johann TIVELS died on 20 August 1791 in Dillingen.[5] The record was misinterpreted by an earlier researcher who attributed the death to Mathias’ father Johann TIVELS. When I viewed the death record, I questioned it being for the father as it read Joannes infansis Joannis Tivels (Johann child or infant of Johann Tivels). Johann Sr. was, I thought, a widower at the time and would have been seen in the parish register entry as viduus.

Mathias and Maria’s Children

Mathias and Maria lived in Dillingen their entire married life. They likely attended the little church seen above in the background. The old cobblestone paved bridge which crosses the Sauer River, the border between Luxembourg and Germany, leads into the town.

The first known child of Mathias and Maria was a male stillborn on 5 July 1794 in Dillingen.[6] The information is attributed to the Familienbuch der kath. Pfarrei St.Peter und Paul in Wallendorf by Mathias Emil Hubsch. The family book of Wallendorf includes the towns of Hösdorf (1744-1822), Ammeldingen and Biesdorf (1744-1899) and Dillingen (1744-1807). I’ll check the book when I visit the Archive Luxracines tomorrow.

Maria and Mathias’s second child, a daughter Maria FRIDERICH was born on 14 April 1796 in Dillingen.[7] Her birth was found in the index to the microfilm records Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898.

1846 Census for the KREMER-FRIEDERICH family of Bettendorf [8]
On 14 April 1802, exactly six years later Elisabeth FRIEDERICH, the last known child of Mathias and Maria, was born in Dillingen. Her birth record has not been located. The date of birth was found on the 1846 census.[8] Or should I use 15 April 1803, the date found on the 1849 census?[9] Normally a date of birth would be found on her marriage record but, in this case, her age and date of birth were omitted on the record. At the time of death on 28 October 1871, she was listed as 70 years old.

Mathias’ Father Dies

Château de Beaufort by N. Maroldt, Diekirch. From a series of ten framed photographs of castles in Luxembourg, private collection of the Meder-Dempsey Family.

Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH, father of Mathias, lived twenty years longer than first believed. Mathias was 39 years old when he went before Johann Georg EVEN, mayor of Beaufort, and reported the death of his father in Dillingen on 4 August 1811 in his home known as Thivels. The death record had a surprising detail. Johann left a widow named Maria BOUR.[10]

1811 death record for Johann THIVELS alias FRIEDERICH [10]
Further research showed that due to the nature of the surnames used in different records [changing surnames and house names] the connection had not been made by others who have researched the areas of Wallendorf, Dillingen, Colmar, and Beaufort. I believe this is due to the difference between research done for family books of towns and research done for families. Town family books are wonderful references but verification of the dates and places for the individuals and family groups needs to be obtained by accessing the records.
Marriage Index Cards for the marriages of Tivels-Federspiel [11] and Friderich-Boor [12]
Johann THIVELS married Catharina FEDERSPIEL[11] and Johann FRIEDERICH married Maria BOUR.[12] Since the Johann who married Catharina was believed to have died in 1791 the connection to Johann who married Maria BOUR was not made. The son Mathias from the first marriage is the common denominator and led me to the records which I believe prove only one Johann married both ladies. His second marriage[12] took place three and a half months after his first wife’s death.[2] I am still working on the children of the second marriage. The death record[13] of a son Peter who lived less than a month and died in 1786 lists the father as Joannis FREDERICH vulgo TIVELS and shows the connection between the two names as is later seen on Johann’s death record.[10]

Mathias Dies

A year after he was seen as the informant on his father’s death record, Mathias FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS died on 16 August 1812 in Dillingen.[14] He left a wife, Maria OLSEM, and a daughter Elisabeth who was just ten years old.

Other Connections

Château de Berg by N. Maroldt, Diekirch. From a series of ten framed photographs of castles in Luxembourg, private collection of the Meder-Dempsey Family.

So little is known of the FRIDERICH-OLSEM couple that I focused my research a bit more closely on the siblings of Mathias and Maria. Although I knew Maria lived another 16 years after Mathias died and would die in Dillingen, I wondered if there may be stronger connections between her and her family in Colmar. This turned up a strange intertwined connection.

Maria’s brother Dominique OLSEM was 38 years old when he married the 26 years old Susanne HAMES on 18 May 1806 in Berg. [15] They had four children.

Mathias’ youngest sibling and only sister Marie TIWELS married Joseph KOOB on 11 January 1808 in Bettendorf.[16] She was 26 years old. They had a son.

Dominique OLSEM died on 28 Mar 1813 in Colmar[17] and Marie TIWELS died on 16 May 1815 in Moestroff.[18] Dominique’s widow Susanne HAMES and Marie’s widower Joseph KOOB married on 29 November 1815 in Berg.[19] Perhaps Marie played matchmaker for her sister-in-law and brother-in-law. Or the matchmaker could have been her older brother Nicolas OLSEM who was a witness to the marriage in Berg.

Marie Dies

Marie OLSEM died on 1 April 1828 in Dillingen. [20] The informant gave her age as 73 years but she was only 64. She was survived by her daughter Elisabeth and one living sibling, Maria Barbara OLSEM who died on 16 December 1829 in Wiltz.[21]

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH was not yet married and celebrated her 26th birthday a little over two weeks after her mother’s death. Almost two years later, on 17 February 1830, she married Nicolas KREMER (1797-1867) in Bettendorf [22] to begin her own little family. It would not be a happy first year of marriage…. Her story continues here.

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Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 88 of 438. 1791 Marriage Record (second entry). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32461-5216-23?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F:1501154317,1501199302 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[2] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 47 of 438. 1785 Death Record (left page, 4th entry).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-975T?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : 9 January 2015).
[3] Ibid., Bissen > Baptêmes 1779-1784, mariages 1779-1784, sépultures 1779-1784 > image 45 of 68. 1782 Death Record (left page, 1st entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-QQRD?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-DPN%3A1500938201%2C1500938202 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[4] Ibid., Bissen > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1785-1793 > image 99 of 186. 1789 Death Record (right page, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9W7K?cc=2037955&wc=STH6-FMS%3A1500938201%2C1500938228 : accessed 24 April 2017),.
[5] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 87 of 438. 1791 Death Record (left page, 6th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WS-975C?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[6] Mathias Emil Hubsch, compiler. Die Pfarrei Sankt Peter und Paul in der Grenzortschaft Wallendorf (Kreis Bitburg-Prum) : mit den filialen Ammeldingen und Biesdorf 1744-1899 sowie den heutigen Luxemburger filialen Dillingen, Pfarrei Befort 1744-1807 und Hosdorf, Pfarrei Reisdorf 1744-1822
[7] Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 / Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898, (index), FamilySearch, FHL microfilm 530,206. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLBY-1BV : accessed 25 April 2017), Maria Friderich, born and christened 14 Apr 1796, father Mathias Friderich, mother Anna Maria Olsem; citing Wallendorf, Rheinland, Preussen.
[8] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > 1846 > image 27 of 334. 1846 Kremer-Friederich household.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32356-27262-77?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-BZ9:346114101,345858602 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[9] Ibid., Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[10] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890  > image 427 of 1474. 1811 Death Record (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRY7-FHY?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38%3A129623701%2C129687501 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[11] Luxembourg parish records, Wallendorf-Pont > Tables des mariages 1746-1802 (index organisée par l’époux) > image 197 of 210. 1769 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WS-SKC7?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K6P%3A1501154317%2C1501154318 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[12] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont >  Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 63 of 210. 1786 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-S29P?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K6P%3A1501154317%2C1501154318 : accessed 26 April 2017).
[13] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 54 of 438. “1786 Baptismal Record (left page, 4th entry).” 1786 Death Record (right page, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WS-97PC?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F%3A1501154317%2C1501199302 : acccessed 26 April 2017).
[14] Luxembourg Civil Records, Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 440 of 1474. 1812 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-147496-32?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015).
[15] Ibid., Berg > Mariages 1796-1858 > image 24 of 270. 1806 Marriage Record , part 1 (right page). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-NCR?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6J%3A129623401%2C129709001 : accessed 25 April 2017) cont. on next image.
[16] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 1409 of 1507. 1808 Marriage Record (first part on right page).  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X2M3-GF?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9%3A129626601%2C129945501 : accessed 25 April 2017) cont. on next image.
[17] Ibid., Berg > Décès 1796-1830 > image 80 of 167. 1813 Death Record (right page, top). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-K29?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6X%3A129623401%2C129623402 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 953 of 1494. 1815 Death Record (left page, bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6RW9-6XM?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8%3A129626601%2C129729901 : accessed 25 April 2017).
[19] Ibid., Berg > Mariages 1796-1858 > image 65 of 270. 1815 Marriage Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62YQ-P4D?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-C6J%3A129623401%2C129709001 : 17 July 2014).
[20] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 676 of 1474. 1828 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-141484-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015) Note: May be an error on record as she was listed as age 73 therefore b. 1755.
[21] Ibid., Wiltz > Mariages 1886-1890 Décès 1797-1862  > image 587 of 1390. 1829 Death Record No. 48. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62TJ-G1?cc=1709358&wc=9RYQ-4WL%3A130592301%2C130900801 : accessed 24 April 2017).
[22] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 220 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39950-62?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).

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52 Ancestors: #34 KREMER-FRIEDERICH Family – Using Substitutes to Tell Their Story

Week 34 (August 20-26) – Non-Population: While we’re on the subject of special census schedules, have you found an ancestor on a non-population census — agriculture, industry, manufactures,  or 1890 Union veterans? Tell us about him or her.

“Putting Flesh on the Bones”

If the birth, marriage, and death records are the bones of your ancestors then the Non-Population Schedules and Special Censuses are the muscles and flesh we need to cover the skeleton. They provide information about the communities in which our ancestors lived making their stories more interesting. One difference between U.S. and Luxembourgish research is the lack of these special schedules.

I would be happy to have agriculture, industry, manufacturers, mortality, and veterans schedules for my Luxembourgish ancestors. I make do with the birth, marriage, death and census records for Luxembourg as they usually include enough information to substitute for misssing records and, at the same time, give more substance to the story of the entire family.

By analyzing the records of all persons in this week’s family I made some very interesting discoveries and found stand-ins for some of the missing key records.

Visiting the Ancestral Towns

viandenWhile out on our bikes last week my husband and I rode through the German and Luxembourgish countryside. I often think of the families who lived in the towns we ride through. We passed through Vianden (above), the canton where the KREMER family lived before coming to Bettendorf, and rode into Dillingen (below), where the FRIEDERICH family lived, crossing over this old cobblestone bridge.

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Nicolas KREMER 1797-1867

My husband’s 3rd great-grandfather Nicolas KREMER was born in Hosingen, Clervaux, Luxembourg, on the 11 Ventôse Year 5 of the French Republic. Ventôse is the “windy” third month of winter and the date converts to 1 March 1797. The date and place were found on his 1830 marriage record.[1] Other dates were seen on the census: 29 December 1800 (1846)[2] and the year 1795 without a day or month (1849)[3].

I searched the Hosingen birth records and found the years 1794-1797 were missing. To further complicate matters the 1843 census[4] shows his place of birth as Stolzembourg and the 1846[2] and 1847[5] census list Wahlhausen, part of the commune of Hosingen. I checked Putscheid as Stolzembourg belongs to this commune and, once again, I found records were missing from 1794-1816. I’ve nearly given up on finding the birth record.

Nicolas’ marriage record[1] is the substitute I use for his date of birth as well as the names of his parents. He was the son of Wilhelm “Guillaume” KREMER and Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY. The marriage record gives his father Wilhelm’s date of death as 28 January 1814 in Weiler, part of the commune of Putscheid. A death record was not found as this year is missing. I checked the Tables Décennales (the 10 year lists of births, marriages, and deaths) for Putscheid and Vianden and did not find him in the 1813-1822 lists. Can I trust the date and place given in the marriage record?

Nicolas had two sisters, Eva and Marie, and two brothers, Paul and Jacques. Marie never married. What did I find on the marriage records of Eva and her brothers? Wilhelm died 28  January 1814 in Weiler. Four marriage records with his date of death. Are these substitutes enough for his death record?

  • Sib 1: Eva (1793-1867) born 10 Sep 1793 Putscheid (Vianden).[6] She married Nicolas DIFFERDING (1792-1869) on 15 October 1822 in Landscheid (Vianden).[7] Eva died 3 July 1867 in Gralingen (Putscheid).[8]
  • Sib 3: Marie (1801-1840) born about 1801 Walhausen. She died 12 May 1840 in Bettendorf.[9]
  • Sib 4: Paul (1808-1859) born 30 May 1808 Weiler (Putscheid).[10] He died 9 March 1859, both in  Bettendorf.[11]
  • Sib 5: Jacques (1813-1848) born 9 November 1813 Weiler (Putscheid).[12] He died 23 July 1848 in Bettendorf.[13]

As with Nicolas, I had to rely on the marriage records of Paul[10] and Jacques[12] as a substitute for their birth records. Eva’s baptismal record was located in the collection of church records and confirms her parents were Wilhelm KREMER and Magdalena WINANDY.[6] Next on my research list is to locate the marriage record of Wilhelm and Magdalena.

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Eva’s baptismal record confirms her parents were Wilhelm KREMER and Magdalena WINANDY [6]

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH 1802-1871

My husband’s 3rd great-grandmother Elisabeth FRIEDERICH (1802-1871) was born 14 April 1802, per the 1846 census[2], or 15 April 1803, per 1849 census[3], in Dillingen, Luxembourg. Can these conflicting records be used as substitutes for her birth record? Per her 1830 marriage record[1] her parents were Mathieu “Mathias” FRIEDERICH dite THIVELS (1771-1812) and Maria OLSEM (1763-1828). Elisabeth had a brother who was stillborn in 1794 and a sister born in 1796. Rob Deltgen, who has access to more than the Luxembourg church and civil records, includes the full dates in his database. I was not able to locate the records in Beaufort, the commune Dillingen belongs to. Mathias[14] and Maria’s[15] death records were found in Beaufort.

While looking at the map of our ride, I remembered I had found information on the FRIEDERICH family (also seen as TIVELS and THIVELS) coming from Wallendorf in Germany. Across the river from Wallendorf is the Luxembourgish village of Wallendorf-Pont which lies only 4 km from Dillingen. On an off chance Wallendorf-Pont may have kept church records I browsed the database at FamilySearch and located the 1791 marriage record of Elisabeth’s parents.[16] This wonderful find made up for the lack of records for their children’s births.

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The index card which led to the religious marriage record of Mathias Friederich and Maria Olsem [16]
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1791 Religious marriage record [16a]

KREMER Marriages Solve Dilemma

What do you do when you find an error in someone else’s database? What if you are not sure it’s a mistake?

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1830 Marriage Record No. 10 (top portion) [1]
Nicolas KREMER (seen here as KREMESCH) married Elisabeth FRIEDERICH on 17 February 1830 in Bettendorf. This is the famous marriage record (above, top half) which contains the information missing due to lack of documents concerning births and deaths. Elisabeth’s parents were both deceased and their dates of death were included. If these were known why was the age and date of birth of the bride not included?

Nicolas’ father was deceased and his mother was present and consenting to the marriage. Her residence was “Eisback” or “Eisbach,” neither a place in Luxembourg. I wonder if the person who wrote up the record meant “Eisleck” which is the northern region of Luxembourg and covers a third of the country. Years ago when I obtained the marriage record from the civil hall in Bettendorf I thought it might even be the name of a German town. Today I believe it should be Eisenbach (Eesbech) which lies north of Wahlhausen, Weiler, Putscheid, and Stolzembourg.

A little over a month later Nicolas’ brother Paul married Marie DIEDERICH (1811-1847) on 27 March 1830 in Bettendorf.[10] Again the mother of the groom Magdalena WINANDY a resident of Merscheid was present for the marriage. Christian DIEDERICH and his wife, the parents of the bride, were also present and consented to the marriage.

Five years later the third KREMER son was married in Bettendorf. Jacques KREMER married Cathérine KORB (1813-1895) on 27 February 1835.[12] Both of Jacques’ parents were noted as deceased. Wilhelm died on 21 January 1814 as opposed to the 28th seen on Eva, Nicolas, and Paul’s marriage records. Magdalena died on 31 March 1814 in Weiler. As seen in the marriages records of Nicolas and Paul, this is a mistake.

Marie KREMER, the daughter who never married, died on 12 May 1840 in Bettendorf in the house of Christian DIEDERICH, her brother Paul’s father-in-law.[9]

After studying the marriage records and finding Magdalena WINANDY living in 1830 and present at two of her sons’ marriage, I had to find her death record. First stop, the reliable online database maintained by Rob Deltgen. Unfortunately, he had the 1814 date found in Jacques’ marriage record. I was back to searching the towns seen as her residence when her children married.

Since my success rate for the records in the Putscheid was near zero I was not surprised I was unable to find the death record there. As several of the families in this branch of my husband’s tree lived in the Bettendorf area, I took a chance and searched for her death in the Tables Décennales of Bettendorf. I found a lady of the same name but the death record showed she was born in Bettendorf and 73 years old at the time of death. At first, I did not believe I had the right person even though Wilhelm KREMER was the name of her deceased husband. She would have been 56 in 1813 and too old when her son Jacques was born. But once I realized she died in the home of her son Paul’s father-in-law and only a few days after the marriage I was sure there must be an error in her age at death.

Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY died at the home of Christian DIEDERICH in Bettendorf on 31 March 1830, four days after the wedding.[17] Did she plan to stay a while after the marriage or was she not well enough to go home?

I’ve contacted Rob with the correction and will continue to search for the other missing records.

Nicolas and Elisabeth’s Family

Three months after the marriage of Nicolas and Elisabeth, twins boys, Jean[18] and Paul[19], were born on 18 May 1830 in Bettendorf. On 6 June at 11 o’clock in the morning, Paul died[20] and was followed by his older twin Jean at 3 o’clock in the afternoon.[21] The death of the second twin must have been expected as Nicolas waited to report the deaths at the same time, an hour after the second death.

Following the births and deaths of the twins more children were born:

  • Jacques was born on 5 August 1831[22]
  • Anna Maria on 2 March 1833[23]
  • Johann on 5 October 1834[24]
  • Anton on 5 June 1836[25]
  • Peter on 25 February 1839[26]

Peter was born at 5 o’clock in the morning. Six hours later his brother Johann died at age 5 years.[27] From 1843 to 1851 Peter was seen as Jean on the census. In 1858 and 1871 he was seen as Pierre. Was he known as Jean during his childhood in remembrance of his brother Johann who died the day he was born?

Another set of twins was born on 2 October 1841.The boy was given the name Paul[28] , a name used with the first set of twins, and the girl was named Marie.[29] Paul, like his namesake, died young, only a month old, on 4 November 1841.[30]

Following the twins’ births, Catherine was born on 1 March 1844.[31] She died on 15 February 1847, two weeks before her 3rd birthday.[32]

Marie, Paul’s twin, died on 20 March 1850.[33] By this time Elizabeth had given birth to 10 children and 6 of these were now deceased. Jacques, Anna Maria (known as Marie), Anton and Pierre were the four remaining children.

Jacques married Elisabeth PROMMENSCHENKEL (1832-1892) on 10 May 1854 in Waldbillig.[34] They lived for a short time in Christnach, a town in the commune of Waldbillig, where they had two daughters in 1854[35] and 1858.[36] The little family may have gone to Paris following the birth of the second daughter.

In 1858 Nicolas KREMER and his wife Elizabeth FRIEDERICH had only 19 years old Pierre living at home.[37] An annotation to the census indicates one of his sons was working in Paris and his daughter was “en condition” in Luxembourg City. As Jacques was married he would no longer be mentioned on his father’s census listing. This could mean my husband’s 2nd great-grandfather Anton KREMER may have been the son who was in Paris.

If it was Anton who was working in Paris in December 1858 he did not stay for long. Anton was in Bettendorf on 1 September 1859 when he married my husband’s 2nd great-grandmother Anna Maria MERKES (1835-1920).[38]

Anna Maria “Marie”  KREMER was last seen with her parents on the 1861 census[39] and was single. Her brother Jacques was last heard of when he reported the death of his second daughter on 18 November 1865 in the 19e arrondissement, Paris, Île-de-France, France.[40] On 2 November 1892, his wife Elisabeth PROMMENSCHENKEL died at the same address. Her husband Jacques was listed as deceased.[41] These death records, found online in the Paris archives, help estimate his death at between 1865-1892.

Nicolas KREMER died 8 February 1867 Bettendorf.[42] Nicolas, who had worked as a day laborer (Journalier or Taglöhner) his entire adult life, left his wife Elisabeth and sons Anton and Pierre. Were Marie and Jacques still living? Further research may uncover their whereabouts or death records.

Elisabeth FRIEDERICH died 28 October 1871 in Bettendorf. Her son Anton was the informant.[43] Later in the year her son Pierre was listed on the back page of Anton’s census record[44] as being in service (in dienst) but without a location. He was most likely still single. If he had been married at the time he would have been listed in his own household. No further record was found for Peter/Pierre and I estimate his death at after December 1871.

Anton KREMER, the last living child of Nicolas KREMER and Elisabeth FRIEDERICH, died 28 April 1918 in Bettendorf at the age of 81.[45]

Make Do With What You Find

I hope you’ve enjoyed the photographs taken for this week’s post as well my twist on the theme. No special census records for this family. And even though I’m missing key documents for the KREMER and FRIEDERICH families the list of sources used is still quite long. I thought this would be such an easy post but while writing and reviewing the documents I noticed facts I’d missed and had to do more than the usual amount of re-writing.

 

 

 

Sources:
[1] Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 220 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39950-62?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[2] Luxembourg, Volkszählungen 1843-1900 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Bettendorf > 1846 > image 27 of 334. 1846 Kremer-Friederich household.  (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32356-27262-77?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-BZ9:346114101,345858602 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[3] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[4] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1843 > image 190 of 288. 1843 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32360-26913-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-T3L:346114101,345863501 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[5] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1849 > image 33 of 343. 1849 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32356-21299-31?cc=2037957&wc=M5LR-TQW:346114101,345864801 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[6] Luxembourg Civil Records, Putscheid > Naissances 1779-1831 > image 141 of 299. 1793 Baptismal Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11541-110845-43?cc=1709358&wc=9RYM-4WL:130227001,130321101 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[7] Ibid., Bastendorf > Mariages 1800-1823 > image 184 of 196. 1822 Marriage Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-249592-40?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2CG:n1464610767 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[8] Ibid., Putscheid > Décès 1859-1890 > image 108 of 381. 1867 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11564-48433-11?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-L84:n1201975605 : accessed 01 Mar 2013).
[9] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1235 of 1494. 1840 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39485-62?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[10] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 212 of 1494. 1830 Marriage Record No. 14. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-40782-87?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 13 Apr 2013).
[11] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1478 of 1494. 1859 Death Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41053-41?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 21 March 2010).
[12] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1843 > image 273 of 288. Koorb-Nilles and Kremer-Koorb household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32360-28353-62?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-T3L:346114101,345863501 : accessed 16 August 2015).
[13] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1346 of 1494. 1848 Death Record No. 40. ((https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-41065-23?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 22 March 2010).
[14] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 440 of 1474. 1812 Death Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-147496-32?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015).
[15] Ibid., Beaufort > Mariages 1864-1890 Décès 1799-1890 > image 676 of 1474. 1828 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11577-141484-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-W38:129623701,129687501 : accessed 17 August 2015) Note: May be an error on record as she was listed as age 73 therefore b. 1755.
[16] Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), 1. Wallendorf-Pont > Tables des mariages 1746-1802 (index organisée par l’épouse) > image 133 of 212. 1791 Marriage Card. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32462-18064-80?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-K68:1501154317,1501173938 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[16a] Ibid., Wallendorf-Pont > Naissances 1799-1814, baptêmes 1779-1793, mariages 1779-1793, 1799-1814, décès 1799-1814, sépultures 1779-1793 > image 88 of 438. 1791 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32461-5216-23?cc=2037955&wc=STH8-92F:1501154317,1501199302 : accessed 19 August 2015).
[17] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1095 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38474-75?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 14 Apr 2013).
[18] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 55 of 1507. 1830 Birth Record No. 32. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-590-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[19] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 55 of 1507. 1830 Birth Record No. 33. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-590-31?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[20] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1097 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 18. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-36361-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[21] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1097 of 1494. 1830 Death Record No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-36361-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[22] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 77 of 1507. 1832 Birth Record No. 37. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5590-72?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[23] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 108 of 1507. 1833 Birth Record No. 10. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-6097-76?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[24] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 139 of 1507. 1834 Birth Record No. 49. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-4896-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[25] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 176 of 1507. 1836 Birth Record No. 45. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5516-98?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-28S:1346120346 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[26] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 231 of 1507. 1839 Birth Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-1700-0?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[27] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1214 of 1494. 1839 Death Record No. 12. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38221-4?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[28] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 287 of 1507. 1841 Birth Record No. 63. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-294-34?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[29] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 287 of 1507. 1841 Birth Record No. 64. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-294-34?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[30] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1250 of 1494. 1841 Death Record No. 34. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-39923-67?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[31] Ibid., Bettendorf > Naissances 1828-1890 Mariages 1800-1816 > image 340 of 1507. 1844 Birth Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13200-5801-96?cc=1709358&wc=9RYD-FM9:129626601,129945501 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[32] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1325 of 1494. 1847 Death Record No. 6. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38041-6?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[33] Ibid., Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 1363 of 1494. 1850 Death Record No. 9. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-38184-84?cc=1709358&wc=9RY8-SP8:129626601,129729901 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[34] Ibid., Waldbillig > Naissances 1871-1890 Mariages 1796-1798, 1800-1803, 1805-1890 Décès 1796-1803, 1805-1838 > image 875 of 1486. 1854 Marriage Record No. 2. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11574-91736-65?cc=1709358&wc=9RYW-N38:130535001,130636701 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[35] Ibid., Waldbillig > Pièces de mariage 1779-1803 Tables décennales 1803-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1793 Naissances, mariages 1795-1796 Naissances 1796-1803 Naissances, mariages, décès 1803-1805 Naissances 1805-1870 > image 1198 of 1415. 1854 Birth Record No. 30. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12455-83981-74?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-W38:130535001,950245901 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[36] Ibid., Waldbillig > Pièces de mariage 1779-1803 Tables décennales 1803-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1793 Naissances, mariages 1795-1796 Naissances 1796-1803 Naissances, mariages, décès 1803-1805 Naissances 1805-1870 > image 1248 of 1415. 1858 Birth Record No. 4. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12455-89144-85?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-W38:130535001,950245901 : accessed 18 August 2015).
[37] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1858 > image 7 of 365. 1858 Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32359-8277-56?cc=2037957&wc=M5LT-2JF:346114101,345867601 : accessed 18 February 2015).
[38] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Mariages 1817-1890 Décès 1800-1859 > image 516 of 1494. 1859 Marriage Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12456-37146-86?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZY:2071013250 : accessed 02 Apr 2013).
[39] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1861 > image 347 of 367. Kremer-Friederich household. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32377-4422-87?cc=2037957&wc=M5GM-MNL:346114101,345867101 : accessed 17 February 2015).
[40] Archives de Paris, http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr, V4E 2310, Décès 19e arr., 18/11/1865. Images from this site are not allowed to be shared with others, used on the internet, or for commercial purposes without permission. 1865 Death Record No. 2429. (online : accessed 17 August 2015).
[41] Archives de Paris, http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr, V4E 2310, Décès 19e arr., 03/11/1892. Images from this site are not allowed to be shared with others, used on the internet, or for commercial purposes without permission. 1892 Death Record No. 2485. (online: accessed 17 August 2015).
[42] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Décès 1860-1890 > image 118 of 465. 1867 Death Record No. 8. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11711-67192-17?cc=1709358&wc=M9M6-2ZR:n1595569028 : accessed 07 Apr 2013).
[43] Ibid., Bettendorf > Décès 1860-1890 > image 189 of 465. 1871 Death Record No. 84. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11711-60058-48?cc=1709358&wc=9RYH-82S:129626601,129626602 : accessed 2 May 2015).
[44] Luxembourg Census, Bettendorf > 1871 > image 269 of 823. Kremer-Merkes household No. 20. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-32382-11432-63?cc=2037957&wc=M5L1-J46:346114101,345869501 : accessed 12 February 2015). See also images 268 and 270.
[45] Luxembourg Civil Records, Bettendorf > Décès 1895-1923 > image 329 of 389. 1918 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-32048-24192-81?cc=1709358&wc=9RT1-926:129626601,129623802 : accessed 27 Sep 2014).

Genealogy Sketch

Name: Nicolas KREMER
Parents: Wilhelm “Guillaume” KREMER and Madelaine “Magdalena” WINANDY
Spouse: Elisabeth FRIEDERICH
Parents of spouse: Mathias FRIEDERICH dite TIVELS and Maria OLSEM
Whereabouts: Hosingen, Weiler, Putscheid, Stolzembourg, Dillengen, Bettendorf
Relationship to Cathy Meder-Dempsey: husband’s 3rd great-grandfather

1. Nicolas KREMER
2. Anton KREMER
3. Nicolas KREMER
4. Franz “Fritz” KREMER
5. Marie Françoise “Maisy” KREMER
6. husband of Cathy Meder-Dempsey

© 2015 Cathy Meder-Dempsey

52ancestors-2015This is my weekly entry for Amy Johnson Crow’s challenge:
52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks – 2015 Edition. It was so successful in 2014 that genealogists wanted to continue or join in on the fun in 2015. Be sure to check out the other great posts by visiting Amy’s blog No Story Too Small where she’ll be posting the weekly recap on Thurdays and allowing all participants to leave a link to their post(s) in the comments.