My fifth great-grandparents, Sébastian LANSER of Echternach and Maria Catharina HASTERT of Steinheim were married on 10 September 1760 in Steinheim. Sébastian’s father Jean LANSER was deceased. Maria Catharina’s father Jean Adam HASTERT was still living. The information was found on the card index in a collection that includes all church marriages in Luxembourg before 1767.1
Not noted on the index card are the names of the mothers of the bride and groom. Both were still living. Maria Catharina’s mother was Odilia FUNCK (1718-1778); Sébastian’s mother was Johanna FASS (1692-1774).
Card Index of the Marriage Record
At the bottom of the card index, the name of the parish, the volume number of the church register, and the page number are found. These help find the original entry.
Marriage Record
On FamilySearch in the church records for Echternach, I searched for the collection that would include marriages in 1760 and found Mariages, décès 1706-1778, that is to say, marriages and deaths for the years 1706-1778. The first image of the collection gives the volume number as well as a short table of content with page numbers.
The marriage record was found on page 248 of register 4. Two marriages took place on 10 September 1760 with the LANSER-HASTERT marriage being noted second.
The marriage entry in the register is in Latin.
On the same day (referring to the previous entry for the 10th) in the presence of Jean FUNCK of Bech and Jean Adam HASTERT of Steinheim, Father Constantine in Steinheim solemnized the marriage between the respectable young Sébastian, the legitimate son of the deceased Jean LANSER of Echternach, and Maria Catharina, the legitimate daughter of Jean Adam HASTERT of Steinheim.
The second man present at the marriage was Maria Catharina’s maternal grandfather Jean FUNCK (1688-1773) of Bech.2
The couple, in all likelihood, said their vows in Steinheim in the Church of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary in front of the 17th-century Baroque sandstone altar.
The LANSER children
Sébastian, a draper, and his wife Maria Catharina lived in Echternach where they raised their family of ten children.
Johann Adam was baptized on 25 March 17623 and died before 1766. This child was not enumerated on the census of 1766 with his parents, brother Heinrich, and his paternal grandmother Johanna FASS (1692-1774).4
Heinrich was baptized on 13 March 17645 and died on 19 November 1827 at the age of 63.6 He married Anne-Marie HERR on 20 September 1791.7
Anna Maria was baptized on 20 May 17678 and died on 7 July 1803 at the age of 36.9 She was never married.
Odilia was baptized on 10 January 177010 and died on 24 December 1828 at the age of 58.11 She was never married.
Catharina was baptized on 11 November 177212 and died on 15 January 1833 at the age of 60.13 She married Johann HERR on 20 September 1791.14
Catharina was baptized was 2 February 1774.15 No record of marriage or death has been found. [See Research Manager at the end of this post.]
Eva was baptized on 13 May 177716 and died on 19 March 1862 at the age of 84.17 She married Henri CONSBRÜCK, son of Johann CONSBRÜCK and Barbara SCHMIDT, on 10 February 1805.18 Eva and Henri were my 4th great-grandparents.
Margaretha was baptized on 24 March 178019 and died on 9 March 1852 at the age of 71.20 She married Johann SELM on 9 June 1811.21
Nicolas was baptized on 18 November 178222 and died on 23 October 1828 at the age of 45.23 He married Catharina Magdalena JOERG between 7 and 20 September 1813. The date was omitted from the marriage record. The record was found between a marriage on the 7th and on the 20th.24
Peter was baptized on 5 June 178525 and died on 3 February 1815 at the age of 29.26 He was never married. Per military records found for Peter, he was presumed to be a prisoner of war in Russia on 11 October 1812. He was in the same military unit as his 1C1R Sébastian LANSER and other men from the Echternach area.27 He came home to Echternach where he died a little over two years later.
Forty-four years of marriage
Sébastian died at the age of 72 on 13 June 180428, a few months before his 44th marriage anniversary. His widow Maria Catharina died on 10 March 1808 at the age of 65.29
DNA Matches
Two very low DNA matches for my mother lead me on a virtual trip to Danzig, England, and Australia. Nicolas, the middle child of Sébastian and Maria Catharina’s son Heinrich, went to Danzig, then a part of Prussia, where he married and raised a family of at least eleven children. One of these children, a son, went to Kent, England, where he raised a family of five sons with an English lady. Four of these sons eventually went to Australia. The matches, a 5th cousin (7 cMs > unweighted 10 cMs) and a 5th cousin once removed (10 cMs > unweighted 16 cMs), are descendants of two of the four Australian immigrants.
Research Manager
I see nothing wrong with sharing the things you are still uncertain about.
~ Amy Cohen of Brotmanblog: A Family Journey
Update: A comment/question left by Amy yesterday on this post brought about a small change in the way I’ll be doing these posts. I’ve added one more section heading to the post: Research Manager, a place to add the things I’m not certain about and will be looking into in the future.
The LANSER-HASTERT couple had two daughters named Catharina. It is not unusual in Luxembourg families for children to have the same names. Others who’ve researched this line (including the compilers of both family books for Echternach) show the first daughter to be the one who married. I suspect this to be incorrect. I think it is possible that Catharina b. 1772 died before the birth of Catharina b. 1774. I searched for a death/burial entry in the church records from 1772-1778 without results. Records that would show the age of Catharina who married in 1791 need to be checked to prove/disprove when she was born, in 1772 or 1774.
Thanks to Amy’s question about the two daughters with the same name, this new section will include things I am planning to research. Hopefully, this will lead to answers from readers who may have already looked into the points in question.
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- Luxembourg, registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Echternach > Tables des mariages 1706-1797 Lahr-Westmon (index organisée par l’époux) > image 29 of 1627. 1760 Marriage Index Card. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-HHFD?cc=2037955&wc=STHD-T36%3A1500937901%2C1501202802 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Mariages, décès 1706-1778 > image 131 of 293. 1760 Marriage Record (left, 7th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8971-16N3?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PYM%3A1500937901%2C1501028848 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 10 of 131. 1762 Baptismal Record (left, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8971-1X8Y?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg, 1766 Dénombrement (census), (images), FamilySearch (Digitial copy of the microfilm of originals in the Archives Générales du Royaume, Bruxelles, includes localities now in Luxembourg and Liège, Belgium), Film/DGS 1781975 > Film # 008198977 > Decanat de Bittbourg v. 1 A-K: > Echternach > Image 222 of 753. Lanser and Metzdorf families. (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSLL-M7DK-L?i=221&cat=1184675 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 19 of 131. 1764 Baptismal Record (right, 4th entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8971-1XDP?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg, Registres d’état civil, 1662-1941 (images), FamilySearch (original records at Luxembourg National Archives, Plateau du Saint-Esprit, Luxembourg), Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 733 of 1463. 1827 Death Record No. 74. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-H6C?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Tables décennales 1823-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1797 Naissances 1796-1808 > image 825 of 1446. 1791 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-DW2?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-3TL%3A129623201%2C130776701 : accessed 28 Jan 2013). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 33 of 131. 1767 Baptismal Record (right, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G971-1X83?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Naissances, mariages, décès 1796-1803 > image 510 of 517. 1803 Death Record No. 64 (18 messidor an XI). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997J-T4WV?cc=1709358&wc=9RTY-RMC%3A129623201%2C130672801 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 46 of 131. 1770 Baptismal Record (right, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9971-1X6K?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 754 of 1463. 1828 Death Record No. 61. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-HS7?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 60 of 131. 1772 Baptismal Record (right, 4th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L971-1X6J?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 865 of 1463. 1833 Death Record No. 3. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-4Z7?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Tables décennales 1823-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1797 Naissances 1796-1808 > image 825 of 1446. 1791 Marriage Record. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-DW2?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-3TL%3A129623201%2C130776701 : accessed 28 Jan 2013). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 67 of 131. 1774 Baptismal Record (right, 5th entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L971-1XX8?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Baptêmes 1761-1797 > image 83 of 131. 1777 Baptismal Record (left, 4th entry from bottom). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8971-1X4C?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-PY3%3A1500937901%2C1501065634 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Décès 1856-1862 > image 181 of 205. 1862 Death Record No. 17. (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11022-10289-61?cc=1709358 : accessed 18 November 2015). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Tables décennales 1823-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1797 Naissances 1796-1808 > image 1343+1344 of 1446. 1805 (21 pluviose an 13) Marriage Record No. 100 (part 1). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11573-62479-92?cc=1709358 : accessed 19 November 2015) and Marriage Record No. 100 (part 2). (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11573-72489-87?cc=1709358 : accessed 19 November 2015). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes, mariages, décès 1779-1783 > image 47 of 177. 1780 Baptismal Record (right, 3rd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-M6QZ?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-YWT%3A1500937901%2C1500939202 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 1402 of 1463. 1852 Death Record No. 16. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-HY9?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Mariages 1809 > image 111 of 1462. 1811 Marriage Record No. 13. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1MW-76P?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-C68%3A129623201%2C129776101 : accessed 9 August 2021). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes, mariages, décès 1779-1783 > image 125 of 177. 1782 Baptismal Record (right, 2nd entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MDR4?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-YWT%3A1500937901%2C1500939202 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 751 of 1463. 1828 Death Record No. 48. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-7FG?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Mariages 1809 > image 178 of 1462. 1813 Marriage No. 19. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1MW-QS4?cc=1709358&wc=9RYS-C68%3A129623201%2C129776101 : accessed 11 May 2021). ↩
- Luxembourg Church Records, Echternach > Baptêmes, mariages, décès 1784-1788 > image 49 of 172. 1785 Baptismal Record (left, last entry). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-MDJG?cc=2037955&wc=STHC-Y4W%3A1500937901%2C1500960252 : accessed 17 December 2017). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 411 of 1463. 1815 Death Record No. 11. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-Q12?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 19 December 2017). ↩
- Matricules Napoléoniens 1802-1815 (index and images), Mémoire des hommes, Registres de matricules de l’armée Napoléonienne (garde impériale et de l’infanterie de ligne) pour la période 1802-1815. (Entry point for database https://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Matricules_Napol%C3%A9oniens_1802-1815/Mode_op%C3%A9ratoire), Number/Source: SHD/GR 21 YC 783, 108e régiment d’infanterie de ligne, 3 frimaire an XIV [24 novembre 1805]-25 novembre 1808 (matricules 3 001 à 6 000), Matricule: 3279, image 48 of 557. Matricule: 3279; Nom: LANSER; Prénoms: Pierre; Prénoms père: Sébastien; Prénoms mère: Marie Catherine; Nom mère: HASTERT; Lieu de naissance: Echternach; Département de naissance: Les Forêts, Luxembourg; Date de naissance: 05 juin 1785. (https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/ark:/40699/e0052a8c4b390c4b/52a8c4b45cad3 : accessed 11 May 2021). ↩
- Luxembourg Civil Records, Echternach > Tables décennales 1823-1892 Registres paroissiaux 1779-1797 Naissances 1796-1808 > image 1245 of 1446. Death Record No. 152 (24 Prairial an 12). (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-DBH?cc=1709358&wc=9RY9-3TL%3A129623201%2C130776701 : accessed 25 Jan 2013). ↩
- Ibid., Echternach > Mariages 1887-1890 Décès 1796-1853 > image 220 of 1463. 1808 Death Record No. 32. (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSSS-QBS?cc=1709358&wc=9RY7-L29%3A129623201%2C129958201 : accessed 8 October 2015). ↩
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Great post Cathy. I love the Genealogy sketch. Brian
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Thank you, Brian. It’s been a few years since this was first introduced and I haven’t been using them enough.
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Thank you, Cathy, for posting your carefully documented research. I am eager to search through the cards you mention.
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Barbara, as a member of Luxracines, you can search the marriages before 1797 on the GeneaLux.Net tab. This database is the digital equivalent of the cards. Once you know when and where a couple married, you can check on the card and the marriage record. The cards are available in the Luxemburg Kirchenbücher 1601-1948 collection on FamilySearch under each parish and are called Tables des mariages (with a date range up to 1797). They are in alphabetical order by groom and by bride. The groom’s name is always on the left and the bride’s on the right. Happy hunting! Thanks for stopping by.
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Am I reading this correctly—that there were two daughters named Catherina? I also was struck by how many of the children never married. Was that typical of those times?
As always, great work, Cathy.
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Others who’ve researched this line show the first daughter named Catharina as the one who married. I suspect Catharina 1772 died before the birth of Catharina 1774. I searched for a death/burial entry in the church record from 1772-1778 without results. All records that would show the age of the Catharina who married need to be checked to prove/disprove which one she was. It’s on my list of things to do. Things like this are what made me re-think how much I should be sharing in my posts.
This family line worked as tailors and seamstresses. There were more women in this line down through the generations who worked their entire lives and never married. I don’t think it was typical of the times but it wasn’t unusual with this family.
Thank you, Amy.
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I see nothing wrong with sharing the things you are still uncertain about. Certainly I do all the time and have benefited from the input I have received from others—including you!
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Amy, I’ve added a new section at the end of the post – Research Manager. Hope you don’t mind my quoting you.
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I will go take a look.
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Looks good to me! And I hope it helps answer some of those unanswered questions. Your comment did lead me to a new question though! You said it was not uncommon for parents to give two children the same name. Is that only when one had died? Or even if both were still living? (Like George Foreman who named all his sons George.)
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Even if both or all three lived. I have a family with John, the elder; John, the younger, and simply John. Since they lived between 1843-1900 when the Luxembourg census was taken, you can tell that they all survived to adulthood. It’s a good thing the birth record was consulted when they married!
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Wow! How did parents distinguish them from each other? That’s a mouthful to have to say when you’re calling one of three Johns!!
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Which is what makes nicknames important in these families. The boys named John were Jean, Johann, or Jang while girls named Catharina were Catherine, Ketty, or Triny.
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Ah, okay—that helps!
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I like the way your post is organized Cathy. I am curious as to how you obtained the information about Peter’s military service.
Thank you, Kathy
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Kathy, I just added the source for the military record. It has the link to enter into the database. At the top there is a box: Déjà 978 000 soldats indexés > Consulter les relevés that links to a search engine for all indexed soldiers.
There is a book in two parts available to members of Luxracines: 1792-1815 Les Luxembourgeois, Soldats de la France by Charles Schaack. It has short biographical information on men from Luxembourg who served in the French military.
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It’s great that Family Search has so many of those records accessible. I like your summer box at the end! I agree with Amy. Put in what you know and it may help you learn more.
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Yes, FamilySearch is my favorite! Eilene, I took Amy’s advice and created a new section in the post – Research Manager. Here’s hoping that others will be able to help. Thank you!
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